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A Dad, A facebook note, a laptop and a .45.

11:38 pm - 02/09/2012
The disgruntled teenage daughter of a tech-savvy, gun-toting father just got a very public lesson in respecting one’s elders.

“That right there is your laptop,” the father, named Tommy Jordan, says in a YouTube video while pointing a video camera at a computer on laying in a patch of dirt and grass. “This right here is my .45,” he says, moving a pistol into the frame.

He cocks the weapon and shoots nine exploding hollow-point rounds into the laptop.

Jordan’s 15-year-old daughter apparently wrote a Facebook post complaining about the chores she has to do at home and the overall hassle that her parents make her life. The father took exception to the public airing of grievances, and so decided to exact his own bit of public revenge, according to the video description, as well as Facebook and Reddit posts he appears to have made.

The role of social media in family life has been debated since social networks began to catch on, but Jordan appears to be taking a proactive approach.

In the video, which is titled “Facebook Parenting: For the troubled teen.” and looks to be shot from a tripod, Jordan sits down in a chair outdoors with a computer print-out in hand. He dedicates the recording to his daughter and, “more importantly for all her friends on Facebook who thought that her little rebellious post was cute, and for all you parents out there who think your, you know, kids don’t post bad things on Facebook.”

Jordan says he works in IT for a living (and, indeed, appears to run a company called Twisted Networx) and chastises his daughter for thinking she could hide the note from him with privacy settings. He then reads the purported note aloud after explaining, “since you want to hide it from everyone, I’m going to share it with everybody.”

In the note, the daughter says that she should be paid for the chores she does and her parents overwork her, criticizing them harshly. Jordan says that her complaints are mostly unjustified, and contrasts it to the work he had to do growing up.

After about seven minutes of preamble, he gets up from the chair and plugs the computer full of lead.

Jordan writes in the video description: “Maybe a few kids can take something away from this… If you’re so disrespectful to your parents and yourself as to post this kind of thing on Facebook, you’re deserving of some tough love. Today, my daughter is getting a dose of tough love.”

Mashable has attempted to contact Jordan for further comment, but so far has not received a response.


And the video -
nekokonneko 10th-Feb-2012 08:26 am (UTC)
That's not how the situation is at all. She is being made to do way more than any child should. Frankly I think you're supporting an abuser with this comment, I'm sure this is exactly how he sees and talks about her as well.
stevie_jane 10th-Feb-2012 08:36 am (UTC)
Doesn't it just kill you inside that there's support for abusive parenting? I'm fucking queasy at this point. When kids come forward and tell people what's happening at home and no one cares because children somehow deserve this treatment, that's really disturbing. Kids should be abused because they have it too good these days! What the fuck. Why does some warped sense of respect matter more than everything else?
ohmiya_sg 10th-Feb-2012 08:39 am (UTC)
He left another comment to the effect of "She'll give me respect or I'm gonna take it. Either way, I will have it."
tigerdreams 10th-Feb-2012 08:44 am (UTC)
That, combined with his gun-happy behavior, terrifies me. Like to the point that I'm starting to hope she has a friend whose parents will let her stay with them.
jesskat 10th-Feb-2012 03:33 pm (UTC)
I honestly don't get why the gun is the reason so many people are freaking out about this. Would it have been any different if he had set the laptop on fire, bulldozed over it or thrown it in the river?

Edited at 2012-02-10 03:34 pm (UTC)
rex_dart 10th-Feb-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Yes, because it's a lot harder to immolate or bulldoze a woman or throw her into the river than it is to shoot her. Can you not see the implied threat here??
jesskat 11th-Feb-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
Honestly, no. Destroying someone's property is not the same as threatening the person with physical violence. Using a gun is just a dramatic way of doing it, no different from the pranksters on YouTube that blow up computers with firecrackers. Are you seriously suggesting that the fact that the guy happened to use a gun to destroy her property (which, BTW, he had outright told her months before that he would do if she ever broke the rules again) is an outright admission that he wants to blow his daughter's brains out?
tigerdreams 10th-Feb-2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
The gun isn't the only reason what he did was wrong, but it does add an extra level of implied threat.
wrestlingdog 10th-Feb-2012 02:03 pm (UTC)
maladaptive 10th-Feb-2012 03:04 pm (UTC)
...And I thought the video by itself was scary. D:
bellonia 10th-Feb-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
...Jesus fuck.

I read that and my heart stopped for a moment.

that's not respect he'll be getting but fear and a daughter who won't speak to him for years.
bwhahahabeck 10th-Feb-2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
Fucking Hell. I hope someone reports this asshole or gets her out of that house.
tigerdreams 10th-Feb-2012 08:46 am (UTC)
It really disturbs me. Knowing how helpless a kid in an abusive situation feels, because of the power a parent has over their child... Kids need to hear that some things are Not Okay to do to them.
silmaril 10th-Feb-2012 03:30 pm (UTC)
Kids should be abused because they have it too good these days! What the fuck. Why does some warped sense of respect matter more than everything else?

I started to get sick about it too, but I'm clinging to the fact that there seems to be a couple of commenters (two? three?) getting into arguments with everyone who side-eyes the entire thing and mutters "overreaction much?"

And that's what we have LJ-notes for, after all.
nekokonneko 10th-Feb-2012 05:18 pm (UTC)
I had to remove my self from this post and detox because the cavalier way so many people were dismissing the pain of a child who is clearly being worked like a mule, has her privacy violated and now can't even rant about it... sick.
romp 11th-Feb-2012 04:46 am (UTC)
I'm alarmed that so many people seem to believe he can MAKE his daughter respect him. You can not demand respect. And his immature power trip in the video doesn't inspire any.
tigerdreams 11th-Feb-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
This. You can MAKE someone fear you, but you can't make them respect you. Respect is earned, even with parents.
tiddlywinks103 10th-Feb-2012 09:04 am (UTC)
I disagree that he HAS to be abusive parent, from the just the info from this post. I think everyone in here is massively projecting, me included. But, if you think I am seriously supporting an out-an-out abuser, then fine. I just disagree.
mrasaki 10th-Feb-2012 07:37 pm (UTC)

Throughout the entire first page I was honestly triggered by two specific people defending this situation. What IF she's not 'exaggerating' -- and by implication, lying? Someone who snoops this far into someone's private space to check up on what she's saying, and then reacts in such a way that I can't see how people /don't/ see it as violent and threatening and humiliating -- how is that not controlling behavior? And he gives her more chores to do just to give her more chores to do? Add in the fact that often abusers will downplay their victims' claims by saying that the child is just lazy, ungrateful, disrespectful, etc etc? Are you fucking serious?

Sure, she may be exaggerating. But I'm afraid not to believe her, especially in light of her father's overbearing reaction. I hope CPS gets called on this guy.

Edited at 2012-02-10 07:37 pm (UTC)
elialshadowpine 11th-Feb-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
Enough people have been supporting this very obvious abuser even after they have read further detail about the situation that it is fucking terrifying me. And this? This shit? Is why I never called anyone for help. Why I was terrified to ask my extended family. Why I was terrified to ask friends. Why I was terrified to call CPS. Because I didn't think I would be believed. Because of people like this, who support abusers, who were far too fucking frequent unless you had an absolute open/shut case like physical or sexual abuse.
tigerdreams 11th-Feb-2012 04:01 am (UTC)
I think I've said this before, but I'm so very sorry that you were in that horrible situation and felt like you didn't have anyone to turn to for help, because of shit like this and people who normalize and with abusive behavior.
elialshadowpine 11th-Feb-2012 10:03 am (UTC)
Thanks. <3 I'm out of it, but I still need... a shitton of therapy and no real way to get it (sliding scale doesn't apply to us because of husband's income, regardless of that I'm basically disabled and have no insurance and thus have to pay for everything out of pocket, blargh), and goddess, this thread has not helped matters.
evilgmbethy 11th-Feb-2012 09:02 am (UTC)
*HUGS* to you. And the sad truth is, some people don't even report if they have obvious evidence in front of their faces. There's this horrible attitude that you have to stay out of other people's business.
elialshadowpine 11th-Feb-2012 10:18 am (UTC)
That is basically why my family didn't intervene. They knew that things were wrong but it wasn't their business. And I suspect there was also some concern that trying to get involve would just result in my mom cutting ties, because dad had her under so much mental abuse and torment... I don't know if she would have, I don't think she would have, but if he'd known they were saying the things they were about him (which I didn't find out until I was an adult, a couple years ago actually), he would've demanded Mom sever contact immediately, and it would have been a capital d Dealbreaker for him. *sigh*

Add to this, I was homeschooled and was lucky if I saw someone my own age once every six months. That was a good stretch. My life as a teen was basically doing whatever Dad wanted, including listening to him vent at length about things like, oh, how he was falling for the 17yo barista at Starbucks (mind that my dad was close to 50) and wanted to run away with her but wouldn't because he had ~Responsibilities to the family, how hot he was and how much he wanted to have sex with her, how my mom was a "crazy borderline histrionic bitch" who was the reason that he was such a miserable fuck, ranted to me at epic length about how unfair it was that he slept on the couch for 5 years because mom refused to have sex with him unless he used condoms because she didn't want to go on the pill. And to his mind, asking him to use condoms or a diaphragm or get snipped was abusive and unreasonable, so he slept on the couch because she basically said "No glove, no love", and of course, it was ALL HER FAULT.

And... argh. Yes. People noticed some of the conversation matter that went on with Dad and I because he would sometimes do it in public too. And creepy ass things like asking me how I would kill a person. Because for some reason he thought you needed to always be prepared? (I mean, I attribute this one to his experience with three tours in Nam.)

And, argh. I could keep going but my sleep meds are hitting hard and I've drifted off three times writing this so I'm going to just stop here. Thank you for the hugs and support. I truly appreciate them; I cannot tell you how much right now. <3
evilgmbethy 11th-Feb-2012 10:35 am (UTC)
<333333 I hope you sleep well and this comment only finds you when you've awakened. :)
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