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Virginia To Deny Gay Adoption On Religious Grounds

11:39 pm - 02/11/2012
The war against the LGBT community is alive and well in the state of Virginia, and children are being caught in the crossfire. On Friday, the Virginia Senate passed SB 349, which gives private adoption agencies the power to deny the placement of children with same-sex couples on religious grounds.

Known as the ‘conscience clause’ bill, the bill allows adoption agencies to deny same-sex couples the opportunity to adopt children, even if they are well qualified to do so. The Senate passed the bill along partisan lines 22-18 and the House has already passed a version of the bill. Governor McDonnell is expected to sign the bill the second it hits his desk.

The bill is supposedly being passed to defend the religious freedom of faith based adoption agencies, of which there are over 80. Many of the agencies also happen to be state funded, which begs the question: How is it possible for government money to be used to violate the First Amendment? The answer, of course, is that it shouldn’t be.

Democratic state Senator Adam Ebbin says, “This bill authorizes every one of the 80 private adoption agencies licensed in Virginia to refuse to offer their services to any LGBT person based on a written moral policy, which they can make up tomorrow. The bill says they can do that no matter how qualified the prospective mom and dad is to become a parent.”

According to the Washington Blade, “Ebbin and other opponents of the bill said that although it doesn’t say so directly, they believe it is aimed mostly at allowing adoption agencies to turn away LGBT people as adoptive or foster parents. The bill doesn’t change the state’s existing adoption and foster placement law and policies that allow an agency to place a child with a gay parent if the agency wishes to do so. Existing law prohibits placement of children with an unmarried couple, gay or straight, but it does not bar single parent adoptions or foster placements for gays.” But Ebbin thinks it could one day lead to a bill that directly bans same-sex couples from adopting.

The ones hurt the most by this bill are the children whose only wish is to have parents that love and care for them. By passing this bill, Virginia Republicans are essentially allowing adoption agencies to deny children a loving home because a couple doesn’t meet their religious standards. So what if the couple are atheists, interracial or, heaven forbid, Muslim? There are still “good Christians” that would rather see a child languish in the system until they attain their majority than be placed with such “unholy” parents. No one should have the right to make that kind of call based on their own personal morals much less their religion.

Judge not lest ye be judged seems to be a foreign concept to the GOP and the ones that pay the price for their intolerance are the children. But what else is new?

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chaya 12th-Feb-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
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kalikahuntress 12th-Feb-2012 03:51 am (UTC)
After that Facebook crap with the dad, days of Frothy and CPAC nonsense followed by horrible people making light of Whitney Houston passing away NOW this...
I'm done, I can't deal with humanity anymore. So disgusted and done.
the_gabih 12th-Feb-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
Oh, bb. I know the feeling. *hugs, if wanted*
kalikahuntress 12th-Feb-2012 05:14 am (UTC)
Thank you.::hugs back::
nope_de_plume 12th-Feb-2012 04:16 am (UTC)
Whitney Houston passed away?

D=
roseofjuly 12th-Feb-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
Yes. She was only 48.
wrestlingdog 12th-Feb-2012 04:38 am (UTC)
Seriously! Fuck today.
thepapermill 12th-Feb-2012 04:02 am (UTC)
ot but what does the 'a' stand for in lgbtqia? I've never noticed it like that before.
the_gabih 12th-Feb-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
Asexual, I think.
sakura_no_miko 12th-Feb-2012 06:40 am (UTC)
I used to see it as "ally," but more recently I've seen "asexual" as well. It's an ever-changing acronym.
chaya 12th-Feb-2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
Asexual. It does/should not ever mean ally.
roseofjuly 12th-Feb-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
It does sometimes, though, as distasteful as that is. (What I mean is that some organizations will specify that the A stands for ally, or both asexual and ally.)
chaya 12th-Feb-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
~_~ This... displeases me.
libre_m 13th-Feb-2012 05:29 am (UTC)
Can I ask, as respectfully as possible, why it would be distasteful to add a letter in there for supporters? Like parents of lgbtqa people, for example, who don't identify with any of those themselves, but who are adamantly supportive of it?
roseofjuly 13th-Feb-2012 06:31 am (UTC)
Because it often includes them in statements in which they had no business being included.

Think about it in the context of this sentence: "Democratic state Senator Adam Ebbin says, “This bill authorizes every one of the 80 private adoption agencies licensed in Virginia to refuse to offer their services to any LGBTQA person based on a written moral policy, which they can make up tomorrow."

The bill doesn't discriminate against straight allies who don't fall under the queer umbrella. Think about that every time that LGBT(QIA) as an acronym is used - most of the time the oppression or issues being spoken of don't apply to allies. In fact, usually when people use the term, they aren't referring to allies at all. They're referring explicitly to people who suffer some loss of rights or oppression because of their sexual orientation or gender expression. Allies don't belong in that reference.

Besides, the whole point of being an ally is not to be acknowledged. You're (general you) not part of the group, you're just helping them. Allies by definition are supposed to stay in the background of the movement and do what the oppressed members of a group determines the allies need to do to help. Why do you (general you) need a letter in the acronym? Parents are that - they are parents of LGBT people. They can support them without having their role added to the acronym that is supposed to represent queer people who are oppressed by the system and are fighting it. Same thing with friends, straight partners, politicians, whatever.
romp 13th-Feb-2012 08:18 am (UTC)
At the risk of making a comparison, we don't talk about PoCA (persons of colour and allies). There are people of colour. And there are allies. We can support PoC but we can never be them.
rkt 12th-Feb-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
how many times do variations of this law have to be found unconstitutional?
eveofrevolution 12th-Feb-2012 04:29 am (UTC)
I fucking hate my governor. What a tool. Hell, I hate the whole state most of the time.
aviv_b 12th-Feb-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
I wonder what would happen if a Jewish or Muslim adoption agency denied a lovely Christian family a child? Hmmmm.
azul_bleu 12th-Feb-2012 05:14 am (UTC)
I would pay money to sit in on that shitstorm.
atheistkathleen 12th-Feb-2012 05:14 am (UTC)
so these angencies are only letting kids be adopted by married christians then?
roseofjuly 12th-Feb-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
Basically, yes. Married heterosexual Christians.
atheistkathleen 12th-Feb-2012 05:17 am (UTC)
"faith based adoption agencies, of which there are over 80. Many of the agencies also happen to be state funded"

this is the problem. if it's being funded by the state, religion should have no say in their policies
shoujokakumei 12th-Feb-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
This.
tiddlywinks103 12th-Feb-2012 06:42 am (UTC)
Yes. This has to be unconstitutional, right?
leprofessional 12th-Feb-2012 06:37 am (UTC)
Out of curiosity if a parent is sending a child for adoption can they request adoptive parents of a specific religion (it's a little different than race I think)? jw.
lexiloumarie 12th-Feb-2012 05:41 pm (UTC)
In some agencies the birth mother picks the adoptive parents based on a profile which can be very vague to very specific depending on the agency. Some do include religion on there if they want to, which could be a factor in getting picked but you aren't generally told why you are picked so in some ways it could be possible. Heck if you include pictures in your profile, race is a factor as well. And a lot of faith based agencies will openly say they prefer to work with couples who are active in x-faith.
daydream11 12th-Feb-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
If you don't want gay couples adopting children, don't be part of a gay couple adopting a child. Easy. -_- I cannot with these people.
citiesburning 12th-Feb-2012 07:06 am (UTC)
This article made me incredible sad for some reason. Like, 98% of news stories do ... but idk ugh this one extra.
atomic_joe2 12th-Feb-2012 09:29 am (UTC)
On homophobic, intolerant and selfish grounds more like.
benihime99 12th-Feb-2012 09:53 am (UTC)
Cause having no parents to love you is better than having loving parents of the same sex.
That is so obvious.
brittlesmile 12th-Feb-2012 10:50 am (UTC)
Trying to look on the bright side, the clause about how they can do it no matter how qualified the parents are seems to mean that they've been forced to abandon the line that queer folks are inherently unfit to parent.
amarettosunset 12th-Feb-2012 05:04 pm (UTC)
Adam Ebbin is my state senator; I don't even know how he puts up with all the shit in Richmond.

Most of Virginia is a cesspool of bigotry. I just die when politicians extol our ~proud history.
lexiloumarie 12th-Feb-2012 05:46 pm (UTC)
the bill says they can do that no matter how qualified the prospective mom and dad is to become a parent.”

Close, but so far dude. Generally speaking its they fact that we're trying to adopt as mom and mom or dad and dad that cause the problem.

libre_m 13th-Feb-2012 05:32 am (UTC)
I would like to see what people who grew up in the 'system' and who were never adopted out, feel about whether they missed out on a chance to have any kind of family/parent/parents at all, because gay couples were denied the chance to become their parents? It just seems so silly to have on one hand, kids who really need a home and on the other hand, good people who are totally qualified to be parents, and in the middle separating them, totally unscientific and uncaring dogma.
romp 13th-Feb-2012 08:19 am (UTC)
where does the "conscience" come into it?
toxic_glory 13th-Feb-2012 04:26 pm (UTC)
By the way, I emailed my senator before they voted and got the following rage-inducing response:

Dear ____,

Thank you for contacting me concerning Senate Bill 349 and House Bill 189.

No individual or organization should be required to violate their conscience in providing their respective services. Adoption services are one among several areas of concern I have in this regard. So, I intend to support these bills as they come before me. I have already cast my vote in support of Senate Bill 349.

If you have any additional questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me. I look forward to our continued service together.
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