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The Lavender House has been approved, dudebros are crying

1:54 pm - 03/23/2012
I normally wouldn't post something from a student newspaper on our esteemed community, but this is a direct follow-up to an article posted a few weeks ago. From ODU's newspaper's website:

The Lavender House Has Been Approved

The Safe Space Committee’s proposal to secure designated housing for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning students has been approved.

Students of the LBGTQ community will now have the option to live in a separate space within an ODU residence hall known as Lavender House that is exclusively for LGBTQ members and allies.

“LGBTQ students and their supporters wanted more visible resources on campus,” said assistant director of new student and parents programs and Safe Space Committee member Kate Griffin.

“We think it will offer them a wonderful opportunity to gain leadership skills, to live with students in an environment where they may feel more accepted, safe, and free to be themselves.”

The Lavender House has been established as a safe haven for LGBTQ students who may feel their on-campus safety may be in jeopardy because of their sexual orientation.

According to the Virginian-Pilot, students signed up for the Lavender House “did not find an intolerant culture at Old Dominion, but each feared it before arriving.”

Charles Lowman, assistant director of residence education and Safe Space Committee member, said, “The Lavender House will function with the goals of increasing retention, providing a supportive network of students, faculty, staff, and community members, creating opportunities for self-exploration and intellectual discourse, promoting holistic health and wellness, facilitating mentorship opportunities, creating a sense of belonging, and engaging students in the community.”
According to the Virginian-Pilot, “Jennifer Mullen Collins said the school based the concept on studies that showed students with support networks of people with similar interests had higher rates of retention, higher graduation rates and, in some case, higher grade-point averages.”

In addition to the Lavender House, ODU offers themed housing for women in science majors, international students and members of the Army ROTC.

The idea of themed housing has sparked some confusion and controversy among other students on campus.
“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.

Hrank argued ODU is engaging in something that is, by its very definition, reverse discrimination by favoring members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

He said if LGBTQ members can have their own separate living space, then any other group should be allowed to make a proposal for their own living space. He noted that he was not taking a stance against the gay community, or for them
“While I think its commendable that Old Dominion realizes and appreciates the issue that the LGBTQ community often faces, I think the entire Lavender Hall idea is unfortunate,” said senior David Hall.

“I realize the school is pushing more towards something like the Gay-Straight alliance rather than just simple orientation. But, are there going to be halls for tea party members or active democrats? Evangelical -Christian groups or practicing Muslims? I want to work towards a society where I can introduce a boy as my husband without anyone doing a double take.

Some students aren’t so critical. Another senior, Devon Mizelle, said, “Provide people with a space to be comfortable in, and their time here will be more enjoyable. While homophobia isn’t rampant on this campus, this will provide a space for LGBTQ students to come here expecting a community to be a part of. I’m proud that my college has this.”

ODU Out President Connor Norton told the Virginian-Pilot that Lavender House “doesn’t encourage discrimination. It encourages respect and community. It makes us allies for each other.”

18 students have signed up to live in Lavender House next fall.

Source.

Comments: This is a big step for ODU! The place is crawling with neckbeards and dudebros, so for the board to approve something like this is awesome.






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chaya 23rd-Mar-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
You need tags, and to fix whatever is going on above the post. (images that aren't working? idk)
lomesir22 23rd-Mar-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
Eep! Added tags, trying to figure out wtf is going on up there.
cadetsandkings 23rd-Mar-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
What irks me is when people who did not involved themselves in any step of the consultation process for a change like this then complain and claim it's counter to "what students want"... this is clearly very much in line with the desires and needs of the LGBT+ population at ODU and I think it's great.
paulnolan 23rd-Mar-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
Also, I have no idea how to change the font.

Copy the article text, paste it in as plain text (switch to the HTML tab instead of the Rich Text one) then put the images in manually (either with <img src="..."> or using the Rich Text editor).

Anyway, nice one. :)

“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.

BAWWWWWWW ;-;
chaya 23rd-Mar-2012 06:17 pm (UTC)
Fucking accommodation of needs, how does it work
kalikahuntress 23rd-Mar-2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
Max Hrank cry moar you shit-head. I am playing a little violin just for you and your man-pain tears are delicious. Keep it up.

This is the best news I have seen so far today.:)
mollybarton 23rd-Mar-2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.



WAT. So where does that leave fraternities and sororities? Aren't they given specific housing?

Good for ODU.
13chapters 23rd-Mar-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
I think fraternities and sororities buy their houses, outside of university control. IDK? My undergrad didn't have fraternity or sorority houses (there were a couple fraternities and sororities, but only 1% of the student body participated in them, they were not a real presence on campus) and my grad school did, but all of the houses were only NEAR campus, not ON campus.
romp 23rd-Mar-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
It's a neat idea. And they need to stop interviewing people not involved. Hrank can go find someone who'll listen to him rant.
lomesir22 23rd-Mar-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
I do not think Max Hrank knows what "discrimination" means. I mean, the Army cadets get their own floor, and so do women scientists, international students, the hardcore Spanish club people, athletes, the Honor Society, and engineers. But nobody--literally nobody--has issued a complaint about any kind of discrimination.

What I don't get is why more people aren't pointing out that this is how themed housing works at ODU! If a group of people of enough size fills out a form and make a good enough case, they get their floor. This is not a difficult concept to grasp, Max!
fightingwords 23rd-Mar-2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
Hrank argued ODU is engaging in something that is, by its very definition, reverse discrimination by favoring members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

He said if LGBTQ members can have their own separate living space, then any other group should be allowed to make a proposal for their own living space.


Ever heard of the Greek system?
poetic_pixie_13 23rd-Mar-2012 06:42 pm (UTC)
“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.

“While I think its commendable that Old Dominion realizes and appreciates the issue that the LGBTQ community often faces, I think the entire Lavender Hall idea is unfortunate,” said senior David Hall.

“I realize the school is pushing more towards something like the Gay-Straight alliance rather than just simple orientation. But, are there going to be halls for tea party members or active democrats? Evangelical -Christian groups or practicing Muslims? I want to work towards a society where I can introduce a boy as my husband without anyone doing a double take.




My heart bleeds buttermilk for the poor straight, cis people.
snapesgirl34 23rd-Mar-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
That's amazing~ :D
shawnael 23rd-Mar-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
lol reverse discrimination.

That's right, because people who fear for their well-being and want their own safe-space are just reverse-discriminating against you.

And I'm sorry, even if homophobia isn't "rampant" on campus, we are talking about students who may have come from places where homophobia is rampant. Idk about anyone else, but I'd need a place where I can feel safe adjusting to a new surrounding.
shawnael 23rd-Mar-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
Actually scratch that, I'm not sorry. I'm the opposite of sorry.
bluebombardier 23rd-Mar-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
I want to work towards a society where I can introduce a boy as my husband without anyone doing a double take.

Yes, and the Lavender House is a step towards this society by being a safe space for LGBT+ students to live without being judged, where they will be accepted, where no one does a double-take. You can't work towards an accepting society if you can't accept the fact that people need safe spaces, and that you need to honor these spaces. They need safe spaces because the current society isn't safe. When there are more safe spaces than unsafe ones, you will have a safe society.
tigerdreams 23rd-Mar-2012 07:03 pm (UTC)
I think anybody who uses the phrase "reverse discrimination" seriously should be summarily dropped in a lake.
mirhanda 23rd-Mar-2012 07:41 pm (UTC)
+1

You know I always agree with you so whenever you post you should just say "Mirhanda and I think..."

LOL
snapesgirl34 23rd-Mar-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
"Hrank argued ODU is engaging in something that is, by its very definition, reverse discrimination by favoring members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group"

This doesn't even make any sense. Hrank, you are stupid. Also your last name looks stupid. So there. :P
eyetosky 23rd-Mar-2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
Is it weird that I kind of wish that it wasn't called "Lavender House"? I get the feeling that if that were in a college movie, at least a few liberals would be up in arms.

I love what it is and what it stands for, but it's a little... on the nose?
lomesir22 23rd-Mar-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
ODU Out and P.R.I.D.E. wanted it to be called that. :/
bmh4d0k3n 23rd-Mar-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.

I know how to fix this! You get a room on that floor :)

On second though, let's keep you as far away from it as possible ...
celtic_thistle 23rd-Mar-2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
“It’s unfair, plain and simple. If the school wants to stress equality then there should be equality; giving a specific group a specific floor is discrimination, or rather, reverse discrimination.” said senior Max Hrank.

Eat a dick.

So glad this got approved <3 Safe spaces ARE NOT "reverse discrimination." Assholes like Max Hrank need to pull their heads out of their asses for five seconds and consider WHY certain groups NEED safe spaces.
perthro 23rd-Mar-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
He's just pissed because now he can't spycam the hot lesbians' rooms when they're out so easily.
angelofdeath275 23rd-Mar-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
the funny thing about the word "reverse discrimination" is that the dumbass privileged folk ADMIT that discrimination goes in one direction lololol
alryssa 23rd-Mar-2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
But, are there going to be halls for tea party members or active democrats? Evangelical -Christian groups or practicing Muslims?

Sing with me! ~None of these things is like the other, none of these things are remotely the same~
cindel 23rd-Mar-2012 09:44 pm (UTC)
And what does our Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli have to say about this or did his head explode?

lomesir22 23rd-Mar-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
After the lukewarm reception he received when he came here last semester (18 people showed up. 18!), I doubt he wants to go near bleeding heart liberal university ever again.
msp_hacker 23rd-Mar-2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
This is awesome.

( Also, I had no idea that they had women in science majors themed housing. That is also super awesome! )
nycscribbler 23rd-Mar-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
Dear Mr. Hrank:

sparkindarkness 23rd-Mar-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Reverse discrimination?

Ok, well, when the rest of this entire straight, cis world is not such a fucked up, homophobic, transphobic and generally bigoted place to be? then feel free to whine about the special treatment we get for our safe spaces. Until then shut it, I can't hear the teeny tiny violin I'm playing for you
deathchibi 23rd-Mar-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
Oh no! LGBTQ people get ONE BUILDING ON ALL OF CAMPUS IN ONE COLLEGE!? :O EGADS!

I wish more universities would make more safe spaces like this.

xerox78 23rd-Mar-2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
One thing I noticed is that the majority of the same people who are complaining about "reverse discrimination" are the same people who would be "uncomfortable" having a gay or trans student as their roommate or living on their dorm floor.
astridmyrna 24th-Mar-2012 01:13 am (UTC)
And how they'd be fine with them being gay or trans if that person just "kept it to themselves"?
baked_goldfish 23rd-Mar-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
He said if LGBTQ members can have their own separate living space, then any other group should be allowed to make a proposal for their own living space.

Straight cis people (especially straight cis males, Mr. Hrank) already have a safe living space, it's called planet Earth.
ascendings 23rd-Mar-2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
i just assume anyone who uses the term "reverse discrimination" (or "reverse racism" for that matter) is just a complete idiot who has no idea what they are talking about
redstar826 23rd-Mar-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
yeah, it's like a giant blinking sign that says "I am a douchebag! avoid me!"
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