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Romney: Uninsured with preexisting conditions should be denied coverage

9:37 pm - 03/28/2012

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Tuesday insisted that President Barack Obama’s health care reform law should be overturned and that people with preexisting conditions should be denied coverage if they had never had insurance before.

During an appearance on NBC’s Tonight Show, host Jay Leno told Romney that he knew people that had never been able to get insurance before “Obamacare” was passed.

“It seems to me like children and people with preexisting conditions should be covered,” Leno noted.

“People with preexisting conditions — as long as they’ve been insured before, they’re going to continue to have insurance,” Romney explained.

“Suppose they were never insured?” Leno asked.

“Well, if they’re 45 years old, and they show up, and they say, I want insurance, because I’ve got a heart disease, it’s like, `Hey guys, we can’t play the game like that. You’ve got to get insurance when you’re well, and if you get ill, then you’re going to be covered,’” Romney replied.

“I know guys that work in the auto industry and they’re just not covered because they work in brake dust,” Leno pressed. “And then they get to be 30, 35, and were never able to get insurance before. Now they have it. That seems like a good thing.”

“But people who have had the chance to be insured — if you’re working in an auto business for instance, the companies carry insurance, they insure all their employees — you look at the circumstances that exist,” the candidate explained. “But you don’t want everyone saying, `I’m going to sit back until I get sick and then go buy insurance.’ That doesn’t make sense. But you have to find rules that get people in that are playing by the rules.”

The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent pointed out that by passing health insurance mandates in Massachusetts, Romney had acknowledged that people should get coverage when they are well, but he had since moved further to the right in an effort to win the GOP presidential primary.

“So he’s forced to give a nonsensical answer to the core policy and moral question that’s left behind if we do away with Obamacare: What should the federal government do about those who can’t get insurance covarge, thanks to preexisting conditions?” Sargent wrote.

“Until Romney details otherwise, his answer, for all practical purposes, is: Nothing.”

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firerosearien 29th-Mar-2012 03:18 am (UTC)
Yeah so I got major digestive issues and ovarian cysts, and I'd totally just love not having healthcare (thank you New Jersey for letting me keep my insurance...for now)
phoenixblaze 29th-Mar-2012 04:02 am (UTC)
Yeah I have chronic digestive problems since I was born and got diagnosed with fibromyalgia at 18. Things like this make me rage so bad.
effervescent 29th-Mar-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
Ugh, I just can't even try to understand the logic behind this sort of thing. I don't want to understand it. How can anyone look a fellow human being in the eye and tell them that they don't deserve healthcare? It's like he deliberately blinds himself to all the ways that a person could end up without insurance.
sesmo 29th-Mar-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
Actually, he's saying the same thing the SG said at the Supreme Court. Insurance will not work if you let people just buy it when they get sick. That eliminates the risk distribution aspect of insurance. In that, he's right.

Of course, in the meantime he argues against providing coverage in other ways to high risk folks, which is shitty.
mercaque 29th-Mar-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
When Jay Leno is nailing you on being a greedy douche...
firerosearien 29th-Mar-2012 03:27 am (UTC)
No kidding
gloraelin 29th-Mar-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
I was already broken enough that by the time I was out from under my parents' insurance, I had about four disqualifying pre-existing conditions. Fuck you so much, Mitt, because I'll never EVER qualify for insurance according to you.
cai_penquin 29th-Mar-2012 03:44 am (UTC)

My sister WAS on my parents insurance plan and when they changed providers the insurance companies would not enroll my sister in their plans. Thankfully at our jobs we had basic insurance but she maxed out her prescription benefits in 3 months. :(
schexyschteve 29th-Mar-2012 03:27 am (UTC)
firerosearien 29th-Mar-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
On a less ragey note: As long as the insurance model is built around the idea of people getting sick (instead of staying healthy) we will continue to be fucked.
cai_penquin 29th-Mar-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
doverz 29th-Mar-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
Fuck you Mittens. People don't have insurance for all kinds of reasons, like not being able to afford it or because insurance companies are fucking assholes and deny you for no fucking reason. You are so fucking disconnected from what the average American goes through.
hinoema 29th-Mar-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
Or because you live in a 'right to work' state and your employer refuses to offer insurance and what can you do? Yeah.
24_24_1_1526 29th-Mar-2012 03:29 am (UTC)
so should i ever find a job again, i won't be able to get insurance to cover the drugs i need that keep my chron's disease in remission?


since i can't wish death upon you, i hope you develop a severely infected anal fissure.
spyral_path 29th-Mar-2012 03:43 am (UTC)
You mean "should I never find a job that offers insurance again." I have two jobs and don't get insurance through either of them.
13chapters 29th-Mar-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
Does this guy WANT me to think he's an asshole? If so, good job.
jasonbeast 29th-Mar-2012 04:09 am (UTC)
All the Republicans are trying to out-asshole each other this year. It's a thing.
doverz 29th-Mar-2012 03:35 am (UTC)
So, do people think that the SC will strike down the individual mandate??
angelus7988 29th-Mar-2012 08:51 pm (UTC)
I'm really scared that they will.
amyura 29th-Mar-2012 03:35 am (UTC)
I've had insurance my whole life. I'm also clinically depressed and get migraines. And I've had two kids, one by emergency c-section, and still have another good 10-15 years left of fertility. If I ever lose my current insurance, I'm FUCKED.
emmymik 29th-Mar-2012 03:38 am (UTC)
Well then. Clearly I should have thought twice before being born with a heart condition.
yeats 29th-Mar-2012 03:48 am (UTC)
you should have just stayed in the womb -- obviously that's the only time that republicans care about people.
nicosian 29th-Mar-2012 03:38 am (UTC)
nice, romney, referring to health insurance as "playing the game". For most people I know, it isn't a game at all, they can't afford it, they can't get it, and you just said on national TV its ok if we just start shoving people off a cliff?

Yeah. How the HELL is this sort of thing even acceptable in politicians now?
ladylothwen 29th-Mar-2012 03:42 am (UTC)
This asshole. I'm just gonna laugh at the sign behind him. Ask him why he's such a flaming bag of shit.
spyral_path 29th-Mar-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
best comment I've read all day.
porcelain72 29th-Mar-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
"Ask Mitt Anything."

Mitt, why are you such a motherfucker?
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