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Homosexuality IS a departure from the norm: We must beware of our civilisation being battered by the PC brigade

Boris Johnson is a long-standing champion of sexual tolerance – at least that’s what he seems to expect from his poor wife.

This time he has shifted his innermost convictions into the public arena by banning from London buses a Christian campaign aimed at reforming homosexuals.

‘London is one of the most tolerant cities in the world and intolerant of intolerance,’ he said. I agree.

London is so tolerant it could be twinned with Sodom – or alternatively with our neighbourhood French villages called Orgy and Anus (I’m not joking, they are both next door to us).

True to his word, the good mayor found nothing wrong with the blatant propaganda of homosexuality launched earlier by Stonewall, the charity devoted to promoting homosexual agendas, such as same-sex marriage.


The thrust of their campaign was the probably correct message that homosexuality is innate and therefore irreversible.

In response, Christian groups created a campaign typified by the ad saying ‘Some people are gay. Get over it.’ That’s where Mr Johnson drew the line on his tolerance.

‘It is clearly offensive,’ he thundered, ‘to suggest that being gay is an illness that someone recovers from and I am not prepared to have that suggestion driven around London on our buses.'

Our erudite mayor is a writer, but he’s clearly not a reader. For anyone who actually read the ad would know it says nothing of the sort. Any reasonably educated person will be aware that homosexuality isn’t a disease. It is, however, an aberration.

Now before I’m tarred and feathered as yet another manifestation of the prevailing tolerance, I hasten to add that I use the word ‘aberration’ strictly in its dictionary definition: ‘a departure from what is normal or desirable’.

Since only about one percent of us are that way inclined, homosexuality is obviously a departure from the norm. Surely, 99 percent are in a better position than one percent to judge what is normal?

And, indulging in a bit of reductio ad absurdum, reversing that proportion would spell the end of the human race, which is clearly undesirable. So the dictionary definition applies in its entirety.

It may well be true that a propensity for homosexual, which is to say aberrant, behaviour is innate.

And it’s indisputable that people ought not to be reproached, much less punished, for the way they are born. They can, however, be legitimately asked not to act on their aberrant tendencies.

A kleptomaniac only becomes reproachable when he actually steals. A man who’s violent by nature is on safe grounds until he commits a violent act. We aren’t responsible for where we begin in life. But we are responsible for where we finish.

The campaign that offended the Mayor enunciates the traditional Christian attitude to homosexuality. Rather than regarding homosexuality as a disease from which one could be cured, Christianity regards it as a sin from which one should abstain. It’s only in this sense that a homosexual can ‘get over it’.

Abstaining from sex for moral reasons is tantamount to heroism, and most people can’t be expected to be heroes. That’s why I don’t think homosexuality should be banned, or homosexuals in any way abused.

But Christianity would be remiss in its mission if it didn’t call on them to adhere to the absolute moral standards stipulated by the founding religion of our civilisation.

And all of us, Christians or otherwise, ought to be wary of the systematic campaign to destroy everything our civilisation stands for.

It’s not only our religion but also our constitution, our aesthetic sense, our education and our general morality that are being smashed by the battering ram of PC modernity.

That propaganda of homosexuality can be used in this capacity is beyond question. Witness the fact that the first European country that liberalised homosexuality was Soviet Russia between 1917 and 1934 – neither the time nor the place known for an all-consuming love of Western civilisation.

In parallel, the Bolsheviks, who were almost as tolerant as Mayor Johnson, abolished marriage, and Lenin’s mistress Inessa Armand likened sex to drinking a glass of water.

The Bolsheviks were aware of the destructive potential of sexual licentiousness in all its forms, and they were out to destroy.

Boris Johnson doesn’t want to destroy. He just wants to be re-elected – as a Conservative (!) candidate.

To establish his conservative credentials, he is flaunting his moral relativism, what he calls intolerance of intolerance.

In doing so he denies the right of free speech to a constructive campaign asking homosexuals to reform and suggesting it’s possible – while affording this freedom to a campaign that’s utterly deterministic and destructive, in effect if not in intent.

I’m willing to accept for the sake of argument (and only for its sake) that, rather than simply indulging in full-time electioneering, Mr Johnson really does disagree with the sentiment expressed in the ‘Get over it’ campaign.

But that’s no reason to ban it. For freedom of speech to mean anything at all, it ought to cover the freedom to say things we don’t like. After all, allowing only those statements that please us involves no hardship at all.

Judging by his action, Boris Johnson is rather vague on our constitutional liberties, Western moral and intellectual tradition, and the boundaries of his remit as a politician.

His response to what the ads actually say also betokens a need for a remedial reading class. An ideal future candidate for Prime Minister, I dare say.


Source
The Stonewall ad can be found here, the Christian ad here.
soundczech 14th-Apr-2012 03:59 pm (UTC)
this article is so incoherent i could barely follow it
shukivengeance 14th-Apr-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
For freedom of speech to mean anything at all, it ought to cover the freedom to say things we don’t like.

I'm betting they'd be saying something differently if a bus campaign called christianity a disease (anyone remember the atheist bus campaign?). Here's a thought, stop concerning yourself with other people's sex lives.
tigerdreams 15th-Apr-2012 12:39 am (UTC)
This. Almost makes me wish someone would run such an ad, if only to point out the hypocrisy of the response from conservative Christians.
derezzed 14th-Apr-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
wtf is this article
rylee900 14th-Apr-2012 04:05 pm (UTC)
1%? Lol,you wish. More like 15-20% That's nearly a quarter of the population.
shukivengeance 14th-Apr-2012 04:22 pm (UTC)
And bisexuals don't exist either.
beoweasel 14th-Apr-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
The campaign that offended the Mayor enunciates the traditional Christian attitude to homosexuality. Rather than regarding homosexuality as a disease from which one could be cured, Christianity regards it as a sin from which one should abstain.

Yes, they're just saying people should abstain from it! After all, it's not like Christians accuse homosexuals of being pedophiles, deviants, and a scourge on western civilization...oh wait.

And wait, is he suggesting we shouldn't be tolerant, because the Bolsheviks were tolerant? What?
violetrose 14th-Apr-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
Anything the Russians did is automatically bad, clearly.

The Soviet Union also gave women rights that included legal abortion, does that mean women shouldn't be allowed rights, either? (Don't ask this dude that, he'd probably say yes.)
ljtaylor 14th-Apr-2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
"... I don’t think homosexuality should be banned, or homosexuals in any way abused.

But Christianity would be remiss in its mission if it didn’t call on them to adhere to the absolute moral standards stipulated by the founding religion of our civilisation."


...cool, so at that point he should have stopped writing.

Edited at 2012-04-14 04:54 pm (UTC)
sparkindarkness 14th-Apr-2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
Nah, that line there is aleady grossly offensive.
riath 14th-Apr-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
Ugh, LGBT rights aren't about being PC, they're about treating people with the respect and dignity they deserve and affording them the privacy to do and be with who they love.

I'm getting fed up with these assholes. I'm going to get one of those savings tins and every time one of these bigots bleats things like "homosexual agenda", "persecuting Christians", "aberration" and "deviant, immoral behaviour", I'll add a pound to it. Then, when it's full I'll donate every penny to a charity, like The Trevor Project.
aviv_b 14th-Apr-2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
The bad news - you are going to need a very, very large tin. The good news - a wonderful charity will receive a lot of money.
sephirajo 14th-Apr-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
Look at that. My head tilted so far while reading this that it hit the desk.
kyra_neko_rei 14th-Apr-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
True to his word, the good mayor found nothing wrong with the blatant propaganda of homosexuality launched earlier by Stonewall, the charity devoted to promoting homosexual agendas, such as same-sex marriage.

Yeah, last I checked, the "homosexual agenda" didn't communicate the opinion that there's something wrong with heterosexuals. It didn't say that heterosexuality is inherently sinful and "those people" should just abstain from sex and romantic companionship their whole lives. It didn't say straight people shouldn't be allowed to marry.

You're comparing apples to rat poison. Shut up.
othellia 14th-Apr-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
Wait. So he's trying to make himself seem more tolerant (at least in his eyes) by acknowledging that people are born gay and that it's not a matter of "curing a disease" but gaining the willpower to act against desires...

...but he's using this argument towards advocating for a series of bus ads that claim to "cure" gay people.
kishmet 14th-Apr-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
I love that bigots suck at writing. And that's about all I got from this article!
makemerun 14th-Apr-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
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mephisto5 14th-Apr-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
8D

I'll take two.
premor 14th-Apr-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
the Bolsheviks, who were almost as tolerant as Mayor Johnson, abolished marriage

say what now
tmlforsyth 15th-Apr-2012 08:14 pm (UTC)
I thought the Soviet Union was quite homophobic and Stalin sent countless homosexuals to Siberia, and that homosexuality was declared counter-revolutionary and capitalistic, but that may all depend on the mood of the reigning Red Tsar.
mephisto5 14th-Apr-2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
Fuck you, daily mail writer- heterosexuality isn't 'normal', just common.

Also, OP, if you post daily mail articles, maybe use the Daily Veil site, so you don't feed them traffic? Means they lose out on ad revenue.
the_gabih 14th-Apr-2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
I hadn't heard of it- thanks!
vanishingbee 14th-Apr-2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
violetrose 14th-Apr-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
I thought this was going to be written by Liz Jones for a minute.

The proposed ads weren't even offensive - they were promoting incorrect and outdated scientific theories and Psychology. It's like having an ad that says eating raisins will cure cancer.

A kleptomaniac only becomes reproachable when he actually steals.

Here's the difference; Kleptomania is actually considered a Psychiatric illness (or sometimes, a culmination of various other illnesses).

That’s why I don’t think homosexuality should be banned, or homosexuals in any way abused.

Here's your cookie. Please be aware, though, that the chocolate chips are actually lumps of shit.

And omg stop saying ~homosexual~. Tbh this is why it's part of my litmus test for being a dick.
the_gabih 14th-Apr-2012 08:53 pm (UTC)
It's like having an ad that says eating raisins will cure cancer.

Especially when the brand of raisins you're trying to promote has been proven to be linked to higher rates of suicidal depression in its consumers.
andthelight 14th-Apr-2012 08:16 pm (UTC)
I kind of want to vomit after reading this, tbh
circumambulate 14th-Apr-2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
Yes, homosexuality is a departure from the norm, so is having red hair. Shall we go after gingers now, too?
phililen3 15th-Apr-2012 01:39 pm (UTC)
We all know they are all witches anyways.
johnjie 14th-Apr-2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I hate the term 'PC', because usually it's used by some old fart/ignorant shit who's butthurt that they can't pinch their secretaries arse/use racial slurs/openly persecute gay people any more, wahhhh woe is them.

That said, yes, homosexuality is different from the norm, but, so is being left-handed. Shall we say left handed people can't get married?
qable 14th-Apr-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
If PC = Politically Correct, and what works politically these days is being a right wing snot, then logically PC = this idiot and everyone like him who bleats about those evil minorities. This leap of logic is apparently too much for them.
sparkindarkness 14th-Apr-2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
Christians, again. Ugh, this is why I fear the cross
angelofdeath275 14th-Apr-2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
Calling the desire to be seen as a human being as PC? thats all i need to know about you.
wrestlingdog 15th-Apr-2012 04:00 am (UTC)
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bluelarkspur 15th-Apr-2012 05:20 am (UTC)
Ugh tyvm. The "absolute moral standards stipulated by the founding religion of our civilisation" don't have much to say about homosexuality, but a lot about sitting the fuck down and focusing on your own sins.
alicephilippa 15th-Apr-2012 05:28 am (UTC)
I've read this several times and I'm still going 'WTF?'

It starts with his justification for calling all us queers an aberration. Just because something is defined in the dictionary in a certain way doesn't make it less offensive when applied to a minority group. Even using that definition, we aren't a departure from the norm as we are part of the natural spread of human sexuality.

Whatever he thinks, the banning of homophobic bus ads doesn't breach the constitutional liberties of the Christian right wing. It actually protects them from breaking the law.
lizzy_someone 15th-Apr-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
They can, however, be legitimately asked not to act on their aberrant tendencies.

Um, refraining from fucking people of your preferred gender/sex does not automatically entail reproduction (the lack of which seems to be your only argument for why being gay is supposedly bad). It's not like, "I'm not fucking women, therefore BOOM I'M PREGNANT." (It's more like, "I'm not fucking girls, therefore I am forever horny alone." Um. For me.)
hauntermooneyes 15th-Apr-2012 09:50 am (UTC)
But Christianity would be remiss in its mission if it didn’t call on them to adhere to the absolute moral standards stipulated by the founding religion of our civilisation.

Oh for fuck's sake.
hauntermooneyes 15th-Apr-2012 09:52 am (UTC)
That propaganda of homosexuality can be used in this capacity is beyond question. Witness the fact that the first European country that liberalised homosexuality was Soviet Russia between 1917 and 1934 – neither the time nor the place known for an all-consuming love of Western civilisation.

omg

Really? REALLY? The Communist argument?
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