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Dem Governor attacks Romney on Polygamy, ignores Obama family

3:06 am - 04/21/2012


In this Obama Family photo are: (bottom row, from left) half-sister Auma, her mother Kezia Obama, Obama’s step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Onyango Obama and unknown; (top row, from left) unknown, Barack Obama, half-brother Abongo (Roy) Obama, and three unknowns.


On Thursday Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer decided to go after Romney’s family history regarding polygamy stating Hispanics would not approve of such a history.  So it is only fair to point out that President Obama’s family has a history of polygamy and bigamy as well.  Yet the majority of Hispanics voted for President Obama in 2008.


The Washington Post reported:

“The line of polygamists in Obama’s family can be traced back generations in western Kenya, where it was an accepted practice within the Luo (pronounced LOO-oh) tribe.” His great-grandfather, Obama Opiyo, had five wives, including two who were sisters. His grandfather, Hussein Onyango, had at least four wives, one of whom, Akumu, gave birth to the president’s father, Barack Obama” before fleeing her abusive husband. Obama Sr. was already married when he left Kenya to study at the University of Hawaii, where he married again. His American wife-to-be, Stanley Ann Dunham, was not yet 18 and unaware of his marital situation when she became pregnant with his namesake son in 1961.


It is also well known that Democrat Senator from New Mexico, Tom Udall, and his cousin, Senator Mark Udall (D) from Colorado, come from a long line of polygamists. But that was never an issue because they are Democrats.
Mens Journal reported:

In the Udall family, politics stretches back generations. Mark’s and Tom’s great-grandfather, David King Udall, was a pioneer Arizonan and a Mormon polygamist who was sent to federal prison (on testimony of an ancestor of Mitt Romney’s, family lore has it). He was pardoned by President Grover Cleveland, then tossed back in jail. This time, it was Barry Goldwater’s grandfather who got him off the hook.


It’s only ever an issue if the politician is Republican.


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yeats 21st-Apr-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
are you kidding me with this shit
zeonchar 21st-Apr-2012 07:19 pm (UTC)
IKR?
tiddlywinks103 21st-Apr-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
Or if the Republican is American, you asshat. Subtle xenophobic shading at other cultures under the guise of being 'fair' is a huge FAIL on your part, sir.

Bigamy is illegal HERE, according to our culture, so shut it. It's so convenient you WANT to refer to other other countries habits when it supports your twisted rhetoric, but National healthcare is what other dirty socialist countries do and we just CAN'T abide it. Seriously, fuck this.

*Flips table*
txvoodoo 21st-Apr-2012 02:24 am (UTC)
Not only that, but Romney's family fled the US to live in polygamy.
lestat 21st-Apr-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
the fucks i give, as a voter, about obama's father being a polygamist and/or a bigamist:













also as someone else said, it's illegal here. so gtfo with this.

Edited at 2012-04-21 01:41 am (UTC)
qable 21st-Apr-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
Polygamy as a crime is a charge that can only be pressed against the people who commit it. It should not be charged against those people's children. Why does this matter to President Obama's or Governor Romney's respective campaigns? Both Gov. Schweitzer and the author of this article are being tacky.
tiddlywinks103 21st-Apr-2012 01:52 am (UTC)
Exactly.
13chapters 21st-Apr-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
This article is totally stupid and xenophobic.

That said, can we just not attack politicians because of their family backgrounds and what their ancestors did? My ancestors on my father's side were a bunch of radical communists, and idek want to know the shit that would be flung at me if I ran for political office because of it. (tbf I'm not at all ashamed of it, but I know it would be used for derailing my hypothetical campaign.)
corroded_tears 21st-Apr-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
So you're saying I should start posting your family's past social and political ideals and activities on a blog then?
noon 21st-Apr-2012 01:49 am (UTC)
of course it's "only ever an issue if the politician is republican". that is the party that tries to paint itself as the family values party, upholding the sanctity of marriage, protecting of kids, blahblahblah etc etc.

and fleeing to mexico because of your illegal polygamist practices isn't the same as legal polygamy in other cultures, so bye.

regardless, mitt romney and barack obama aren't the polygamists, so it shouldn't even matter.
kitchen_poet 21st-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
THIS. All of this. When you call yourself the "family values" party and then proceed to practice nothing even close to resembling family values, you kind of set yourself up for criticism like this.

I guess if you wanted to be fair and balanced, you should have included a photo of all the very extended family of Mitt Romney still living on that polygamy compound in Mexico...
redstar826 21st-Apr-2012 01:50 am (UTC)
team nobody, to be honest. I really don't give a shit about either Romney's or Obama's family histories with regards to this issue. It just isn't relevant.
layweed 21st-Apr-2012 01:52 am (UTC)
This is such a freaking non-issue. Polygamy has been outlawed by Church of LDS for over a 120 years and neither Mitt Romney's family history, nor Barack Obama's is even relevant.

Both Gov. Schweitzer and the author of this piece are idiots for attempting to make this relevant.
milleniumrex 21st-Apr-2012 02:04 am (UTC)
Schweitzer's being a complete jackass with this line of attack, and the writer's oh-so-clever point is no better. Fail all around.
hashishinahooka 21st-Apr-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
I'm going to be honest and say that I really wouldn't give a shit if Romney or Obama were polygamists themselves as long as they were treating all parties with respect. How does this knowledge create jobs?
cpip 21st-Apr-2012 02:30 pm (UTC)
Well, if they want to have more weddings, we need more wedding planners, caterers, venues ...

Nah, I'm not buying it either.
ladypolitik 21st-Apr-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
Stupid "Issues" Season has finally begun, so let's just get it out of the way and officially christen it with:



Let the games begin.
the_glow_worm 21st-Apr-2012 02:36 am (UTC)
I never get sick of this.
vanishingbee 21st-Apr-2012 02:28 am (UTC)
that's a runny way to spell newt gingrich


aka the only politician this debate is relevant to
kalikahuntress 21st-Apr-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
Wow, how irrelevant. Next....
captain_emily 21st-Apr-2012 02:47 am (UTC)
1. Neither the President nor Romney are polygamists, so none of this bullshit is relevant.

2. People can't help what their relatives and family do.

3. There's nothing inherently wrong with polygamy, provided all partners are equal and consenting.

4. And this helps create jobs--how exactly?

I really hope this doesn't become a major issue. Really, really hope.
aviv_b 21st-Apr-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Of all the many, many serious issues to weigh when choosing who to vote for in the upcoming presidential election, I put this at the bottom just behind, 'did they wear white belts and shoes in the 1980s'.

I don't care if Romney's family fled to Mexico to practice polygamy or whether Obama's family also had polygamists as well. How does this affect me? It doesn't.

You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your ancestors. So really, IDGAF.
gr_julian 21st-Apr-2012 03:14 am (UTC)
I am so full of care my head is exploding.

Next up: "AHMAHGAH, u gaiz, Obama ate DOG when he was little! He's EVOL!"
wicked_seraph 21st-Apr-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
theguindo 21st-Apr-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
The line of polygamists in Obama’s family can be traced back generations in western Kenya, where it was an accepted practice within the Luo tribe.


Done. Next?
dncingmalkavian 21st-Apr-2012 02:35 pm (UTC)
Right?
johnjie 21st-Apr-2012 04:16 am (UTC)
Ah, xenophobia...you're not cute.

That said, neither Romney or Obama are bigamists themselves, they simply both descend from ancestors who lived in situations where bigamy/polygamy was legal and accepted and/or condoned by their religion. Furthermore, I hardly think it's fair to criticise someone for the actions of their parents.
nesmith 21st-Apr-2012 04:30 am (UTC)
Man, miss me with this bullshit.
schmanda 21st-Apr-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
It is also well known that Democrat Senator from New Mexico, Tom Udall, and his cousin, Senator Mark Udall (D) from Colorado, come from a long line of polygamists. But that was never an issue because they are Democrats.
Or maybe it's because neither one is running for president. Who, outside of New Mexico and Colorado and aside from the biggest political junkies, even has the Udalls on their radar?

Logic, how does it fucking work?
tinyrevolution 21st-Apr-2012 06:26 am (UTC)
Calling the forced mass-marriages of little girls to old men "polygamy" not only exposes the speaker as a complete tool of hegemonic monogamist relationship constructs, but it is a PERPETUATION OF RAPE CULTURE. It is no different than the conflation of "homosexuality = old men raping little boys". Call rape rape, don't trivialize it with euphemisms. Rape is not any single kinship structure or the number of people involved. It's the LACK OF CONSENT. It's the SEXUAL EXPLOITATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE. On the whole more people are raped within heteronormative monogamous family structures than any other. Yet when this happens do you spread headlines like "MONOGAMISTS STRIKE AGAIN"? Call it what it fucking is.

I said it during the LDS "polygamist compound" thing and I'll say it again. If the most salient label for the things those men were doing is "polygamy", then what does that say? That rape is by comparison NORMAL and UNSURPRISING.

Bringing up Romney's and Obama's family histories like this is, yes, cynical stupid nonsense on both sides. But I don't even want to listen to anyone who talks about "polygamy" as if the word itself is a condemnation. Just, no.
little_rachael 21st-Apr-2012 09:53 am (UTC)
I love this comment.
evilgmbethy 21st-Apr-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
lol forever at this pathetic attempt to act like conservatives don't get treated fairly in the media
ladypolitik 21st-Apr-2012 12:18 pm (UTC)
Honestly, yes. This is beyond reaching, and besides even that, what a fucking xenophobic tool for wasting no time tripping over himself to once again remind America how ~overly-foreign~ conservatives obsessively find Barack Obama.

You'd think someone with a name like "Hedgecock" would know better than to draw attention to other people's perceived 'peculiarities'.
dncingmalkavian 21st-Apr-2012 02:35 pm (UTC)


GTFO. Ye gods.
ladypolitik 21st-Apr-2012 02:50 pm (UTC)
LOL
cinco_series 21st-Apr-2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
lmao
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