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Stand Your Ground case towards abuser is failing.

3:13 am - 04/24/2012
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The NAACP's Jacksonville chapter has thrown its support behind a woman who will be sentenced Monday in a shooting where she claimed self-defense against an abusive husband under the state's Stand Your Ground law.

Marissa Danielle Alexander, 31, was charged with three counts of aggravated assault in August 2010 after she fired a single shot into the ceiling of her home during a dispute that somehow turned physical.

A judge denied her immunity in a Stand Your Ground hearing. And after a jury found her guilty, she faces a mandatory term of 20 years in prison.

"This is a clear case of domestic violence against Marissa," branch President Isaiah Rumlin said Friday. "After looking into it and studying the case, this is a clear case of Stand Your Ground as it relates to what she had to do on the date that she did it."

Alexander's husband, Rico Gray, 36, was arrested in 2006 and 2009 on misdemeanor charges of domestic battery. Charges were dropped in one case and he was given probation in the other. Alexander had an injunction for protection against domestic violence against Gray following his 2009 arrest. Police have withheld Alexander's address and it is unclear if the couple were living together.

But authorities, on the accounts of her husband and her two stepsons, have said it was Alexander who began the violence, "hitting on" Gray. In her arrest report, all three said she pointed the gun in their direction before the shot was fired.

Less than five months later, Alexander was arrested, again, on a domestic battery charge involving her husband.



Alexander has maintained that it was Gray who was the aggressor, becoming enraged when she told him she was leaving him.

"He assaulted me, shoving, straggling and holding me against my will, preventing me from fleeing all while I begged him to leave," Alexander wrote in a blog posted by her first husband on a website set up in support of her.

In the post, Alexander wrote the attack began while she was using the restroom at their house. She said she had made it to the garage but could not leave when she realized she did not have her keys and the garage door was not working.

She said she then grabbed her gun, for which she said she has a concealed weapons permit, with her fear heightened by her husband's history of abusing women, including her. She said she went back inside and again met her husband in the kitchen where he then threatened her life.

"I was terrified from the first encounter and feared he came to do as he threatened," she wrote. That's when she said Gray "charged" at her.

"In fear and a desperate attempt, I lifted my weapon up, turned away and discharged a single shot in the wall up the ceiling."

Alexander wrote that the law states that she had no duty to retreat.

But a jury disagreed, finding her guilty as charged March 16.

Attorneys for both sides declined to comment on the specifics of the case with the sentencing still to come.

State Attorney Angela Corey, however, said the jury heard the whole story and the public will, too, at the sentencing. Then, she said, she will be willing to shed more light on a matter she said she has been "very involved with from the beginning."

Lincoln Alexander has also been involved from the beginning. He is Alexander's first husband of eight years. The two divorced in 2010.

Alexander said he has maintained his friendship with his ex and has witnessed the signs of abuse. He described Alexander's accounts of the multiple beatings she took from Gray, including one that left her with a black eye when she was eight months pregnant.

According to Alexander, his ex-wife was also hospitalized by police at the hands of her husband the night of her domestic battery arrest.

Alexander said he had never had any domestic issues in his marriage with her.

Marissa Alexander filed for divorce from her husband Tuesday, according to court records.

The NAACP has sent a letter to Circuit Judge James Daniel, asking him to hold off the sentencing and order a new trial.

charles.broward@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4162



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I originally read this a week ago, before the news had gotten ahold of it. Someone who read her blog pinged me on the story after it showed up in a related search for Trayvon's case + "Stand Your Ground". You can read the deposition here. Any bets on her getting the harsh punishment (20 years - life) because she's 1) not white and 2) a woman?
furrygreen 24th-Apr-2012 10:21 am (UTC)
What? So, this guy has a history of abusing his wife and when she shot at the ceiling (harming no one) AND she was hospitalized because of battery, but they still decide to take his side of the matter? And two counts of domestic violence against Gray suddenly become nothing to this man?

Am I reading that wrong? The author of the article isn't very clear with who's who in the name department. It's a bit confusing.
hashishinahooka 24th-Apr-2012 01:17 pm (UTC)
That's what I got out of it.

I don't understand how shooting a ceiling is a greater offense than beating someone to the point they have to hospitalized.

Edited at 2012-04-24 01:17 pm (UTC)
kyra_neko_rei 24th-Apr-2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
She's black.

And a woman who fights back against her abuser is a threat to any man who sympathizes with abusers or doesn't see much wrong with domestic abuse, or engages in something that could be considered it himself---a part of them is afraid of themselves or one of their friends getting sideswiped with this from their girlfriends or wives, without warning, because they can't be bothered to make sure they're not abusive.

It's the same reason a certain contingent of men won't shut up about false rape allegations---they're worried about being accused of rape "without warning" because they either can't be bothered to pay that much attention to whether she's consenting, or because they don't really understand consent.

It being acceptable for women to defend themselves against domestic abuse means that there's an impetus of potential deadly force---a threat---pushing men to adjust their behaviors toward the women in their lives, and of course they don't like that, it's so unfair, they might get shot for what they consider perfectly reasonable behavior.
hashishinahooka 24th-Apr-2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
As a Black woman, I know. No matter how much I see these things, I'm still baffled by them.
eldvno 24th-Apr-2012 10:49 am (UTC)
What the hell is going on?? Are we on Planet Opposite?! I can't even process this shit.
kyra_neko_rei 24th-Apr-2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
If this is how you show it, we wish you didn't.
hinoema 24th-Apr-2012 03:39 pm (UTC)
OK, now it's about me, too. respect the comm and STFD.
spiffynamehere 24th-Apr-2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
:|a

whut are you doing.
eveofrevolution 24th-Apr-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
Alright, you've officially overstayed your welcome.
kitanabychoice 24th-Apr-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
You should be, but I suspect this is just sarcasm.
beoweasel 24th-Apr-2012 06:46 pm (UTC)


Excuse me, what the fuck are you doing?
celtic_thistle 24th-Apr-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
Who the fuck are you.
fornikate 25th-Apr-2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
what are you doing
farchivist 26th-Apr-2012 02:24 am (UTC)
You're just cruisin' for a bruisin', ain'tcha?
starsinshapes 24th-Apr-2012 12:10 pm (UTC)
So stand your ground only works if you're white and you've killed a black person? Oh. Heaven forbid a woman, a black one at that, tries to stave off more abuse from her abuser. And where are her other children going to go? Stay with the man abusing their mother? Fall into the ocean forfuckingever florida.
wrestlingdog 24th-Apr-2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
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hashishinahooka 24th-Apr-2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
OIC, Florida. Ceilings have more rights than Black people do.
perthro 24th-Apr-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
Well, the drywall is white, see...

::can't even process the fuckery anymore. Can haz house in another state plz?::
doverz 24th-Apr-2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
This is exactly what the Stand Your Ground law should be used for, not pursuing some kid, shooting him, and then saying you were scared and defending yourself.
effervescent 24th-Apr-2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
What? I...don't understand this.

I found this article and there's this part from it:

In Circuit Judge Elizabeth Senterfitt’s ruling, she stated that Alexander admitted in her own testimony that Gray had not inflicted serious bodily harm on her in the altercation and that she had other unobstructed exits to use, instead opting to pass by her husband on the way out to the garage where she got her gun.

But that still doesn't tell me why they wouldn't take all the previous abuse into account. Her state of mind is incredibly important and it seems like they're just disregarding it. :/
hinoema 24th-Apr-2012 03:42 pm (UTC)
Exactly. He had a documented history of abuse and she had every reason to expect it.
kyra_neko_rei 24th-Apr-2012 04:43 pm (UTC)
If his previous abuse isn't enough to keep him in jail for, I don't see why it should be enough to obligate her to have avoided him.

Especially when the law is called "Stand Your Ground." It's her fucking house.
cinco_series 24th-Apr-2012 03:49 pm (UTC)
I don't understand something. People here (and the NCAAP) were all against Stand Your Ground in the Trayvon posts. And now they support it?

Also, i don't understand this case at all. This woman has an abusive ex that may or may not live in the same house as her husband and her two stepsons. And there is this Lincoln guy in the mix. The stepsons and the husband say that "she" is the violent one and she was also arrested for domestic violence. But it was denied in a blog posted by Lincoln? And she went back to the house to get the gun and then went to the kitchen to meet her ex? I'm sorry but this case doesn't look like self-defense to me. And why 20 years for a simple shot in the ceilling? Was she on parole or something? Is it against the law to shoot at objects?
riath 24th-Apr-2012 04:04 pm (UTC)
I think it's more to do with the fact that Stand Your Ground is being applied hypocritically. Zimmerman is white, shoots a black teenager and kills him, but doesn't get arrested until there's a huge public outcry. This woman is black, has a history of being abused by her husband, fired a shot into the ceiling to warn off the husband and gets arrested and convicted and is now possibly facing 20 years.

Lincoln Alexander is the first husband and he supports his ex-wife in her actions. Rico Gray is the current husband and the abusive partner. The two stepsons are Gray's children. The police previously arrested her for domestic battery but she was one who was hospitalised. At least that's the way I understand it.
soleiltropiques 24th-Apr-2012 04:16 pm (UTC)
I'd venture to guess that the 20 years for a shot in the ceiling was because she was (i) black and (ii) female.

Also, while I don't want to deny that domestic violence against men exists, I seriously doubt that it is the widespread problem that violence against women is. This is the case for one simple reason: in the vast majority of cases when a man and a woman get into an altercation, guess who's going to win? So I'd also venture a guess that she was the battered one here.

I'd also hazard a guess that the NAACP's point was more that Stand Your Ground has not been applied equally. Because let's face it, a black man (or woman) is not going to have the same fate under the law than a white man. Period.
kyra_neko_rei 24th-Apr-2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
Not so much supporting it as noting that it is the law, here, (and thus she should be protected under it) and arguing that Zimmerman overstepped it, there.

It is a shitty law, but while it exists, no one should be arrested for legally acting under it. Not to mention that nobody should face twenty years in prison for shooting a ceiling. People regularly get lesser sentences for actually killing people.
tigerdreams 24th-Apr-2012 05:04 pm (UTC)
A sentence of 20 years in prison for an "offense" (real or imagined) in which no one was harmed should not be legally possible. This is absurd. Even notwithstanding the fact that taking the abuser's side over the victim's is ridiculous and a horrible miscarriage of justice, a "crime" that harmed no one should not carry a 20-year sentence. That's what takes this situation from "terrible" into "WTF?" for me.
shukivengeance 24th-Apr-2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this. I read through the article with a feeling of dawning horror when I realized that no, all she shot was the ceiling and she hadn't even harmed the guy, let alone murdered somebody.
tabaqui 25th-Apr-2012 01:02 am (UTC)
I am so sick of women fighting back at their abusers but the law always having some kind of 'justification' for her to not have done it. Like - why didn't she leave, why didn't she call the police, blah blah.

It's like all the history and information we have about domestic violence and the toll it takes mentally and physically is just dismissed and all the courts can see is 'angry (black) woman being violent toward the menz!!'

Fuck all that noise. This case in particular is ridiculous and disgusting.
soleiltropiques 26th-Apr-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
So very well said.
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