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Missouri 'Don't Say Gay' Bill: GOP Sponsors Wary Of 'Homosexual Agenda'

9:54 pm - 04/23/2012
Republican lawmakers in Missouri are defending their controversial bill to ban the teaching of sexual orientation in schools as a way to prevent students from learning about the "homosexual agenda," the "heterosexual agenda" and bestiality.

A group of 20 Republican state representatives introduced the so-called "don't say gay" bill last week to prevent the teaching of sexual orientation in public schools, with the exception of classes relating to human reproduction. The group includes some of the most powerful Republicans in the Missouri legislature -- House Speaker Steve Tilley (R-Perryville), Majority Leader Tim Jones (R-Eureka) and the chairs of the Rules and Ways and Means committees. Tennessee legislators have been debating a similar proposal.

"When it comes to sexual orientation, that is a discussion that should be left for the most part up to the parents," House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Andrew Koenig (R-Winchester) told HuffPost. "It is a pretty political subject. I know there are a lot of parents that do not want the homosexual agenda taught in the schools."

Koenig said he has heard of what he called a "homosexual agenda" being taught in elementary school, but when questioned, said he did not know of specific incidents "off the top of my head."

"I have heard of instances with story books in grade school where it has come up," Koenig said. "You have heterosexuals pushing an agenda and you have homosexuals pushing an agenda."

Koenig said he wants to amend the proposal to allow for the teaching of LGBT issues in current events classes.

State Rep. Steve Cookson (R-Fairdealing), the bill's principal author, was not available for comment. Cookson's assistant, Agnes Rackers, said Cookson rarely speaks to people from outside of his southeastern Missouri district.

"He will probably not get around to calling you back since you are not in his district," Rackers told HuffPost.

A staffer in Tilley's office said he did not have time to speak until Wednesday afternoon.

House Small Business Committee Chairman Dwight Scharnhorst (R-St. Louis), a co-sponsor, said he believes sexual orientation issues should be taught by parents, clergy and physicians. Parents have been passing along responsibility for children to the public schools, partly because of the writings of the late pediatrician Dr. Benjamin Spock, Scharnhorst said.

Scharnhorst told HuffPost that teaching about LGBT issues would lead to other discussions. "There is no need to talk about Billy wanting to marry a goat," he said.

State Rep. Stephen Webber (D-Columbia), a leading opponent of the bill, said he is not surprised by its introduction because Missouri Republicans have been wanting to limit discussion of LGBT issues. Webber pointed to the defeat of his bill to ban discrimination based on sexual orientation for the past several years. He said that while some Republicans have privately expressed support for the bill, political concerns prevent them from voting for it.

Meanwhile, Republican lawmakers have been pushing to add gun owners to the listed of residents who cannot be discriminated against in the workplace. He said the presence of Republican leaders on the sexual orientation education bill sends a signal to him.

"It is not a fringe thing," Webber said of the legislation.


Koenig said he disagreed with the gun owners bill and also Webber's legislation saying that he believes the list of protected classes should not be made lengthy to avoid burdening the small business community. He said that it should be limited to racial and gender discrimination. Scharnhorst said he is against Webber's bill for similar reasons.

Koenig said he believes students being bullied because of their sexual orientation should be allowed to discuss it with counselors.

Scharnhorst stressed that his support of the bill should not be confused with his personal beliefs about the LGBT community.

"I'm not bigoted," he told HuffPost. "I have friends who are homosexual."


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Update: April 24, 11:46 a.m. -- State Rep. Steve Cookson released a statement Tuesday morning explaining his sponsorship of the "don't say gay" bill and why he does not view it as discriminatory. He said that he believes the bill's intent has been misreported in the media and that the bill's purpose is to shift discussion of sexual orientation out of the schools.

"Many of the recent articles on HB 2051 have shifted focus away from the true intent of my legislation, which is meant to protect the moral values that are most important to Missouri families. In a time when our public schools continue to struggle financially, we want their focus to be solely on core education issues such as math, science and reading; and not on topics that are better left for discussion in the home at the discretion of parents," Cookson said in the statement.

"It's also important to point out that my bill does not target a particular sexual orientation but instead says instruction or materials related to any sexual orientation should not take place in our public schools. This would not prohibit a student struggling with his or her sexual identity from talking to a school counselor or cause any of the other issues that have been misreported by the media. Instead it would simply ensure the focus of our public schools is on the curriculum parents expect their children to learn when they send them to school each day."

Link to a petition to tell Missouri lawmakers how wrong this bill is.
chimbleysweep 24th-Apr-2012 11:19 am (UTC)
You have heterosexuals pushing an agenda

Yes. We do.
lastrega 24th-Apr-2012 11:29 am (UTC)
lastrega 24th-Apr-2012 11:41 am (UTC)
"I'm not bigoted," he told HuffPost. "I have friends who are homosexual."

Y'know...sometimes I think about the (horrible, appalling) people I know who don't know how reprehensible I find them (because it would be unprofessional to spit on them in a work situation) who might actually use this excuse because they know me and it kind of makes me want to light things on fire.
bowtomecha 24th-Apr-2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
I never thought about this.

I wonder how many people are unaware that they may be that one black guy or that one lesbian or that one Muslim that people quote as knowing. Now that I look back, my family seems to use me as a shield against being labeled as racist. When they pretty much are.
phililen3 24th-Apr-2012 01:07 pm (UTC)
"I'm not bigoted," he told HuffPost. "I have friends who are homosexual."

*insert eyeroll over here*
mentalguru 24th-Apr-2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a tag on ontd_p related to this argument? It seems to crop up enough to warrant it IMO.

phoenixblaze 24th-Apr-2012 01:07 pm (UTC)
I just, I'm still always baffled by these assumptions that if someone's looking to get married to the same sex others are going to take that opportunity to try to marry an animal. I want to know how it became the same thing. Because I've been in school LGTB groups, I know a lot of people of varying orientation and I know some people into beastiality. Not only are they not the same people, but I've never heard those into beastiality ever even remotely mention they want to marry the animal...
tigerdreams 24th-Apr-2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
As far as I can determine, in the minds of many bigots, everything they consider to be "sexual immorality" is equivalent and interchangeable, AND is wrong for the same reason (because it's "sexual immorality"). That's why they don't see a distinction between a loving relationship between two consenting adults of the same sex, and a person sexually abusing an animal that is incapable of consent -- because to them, bestiality isn't wrong because animals can't consent; it's wrong because it's "dirty."

Therefore, in the minds of these bigots, if the government is asked to give official sanction to one type of "sexually immoral" behavior by offering legal marriage, it will have to do the same for all "similarly" ~sexually immoral~ behaviors -- because there is no difference between them in these people's minds.

Typing it out like this kind of makes me want to hurt people.
auralan 24th-Apr-2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
Did I just fill my entire intolerance bingo card in one article? It's too early in the morning to be reminded that I live in the same universe as these ignorant jackasses.
callmepatsy 24th-Apr-2012 01:35 pm (UTC)
We really do need an "I have friends who are ___________" tag.
babysinclair 24th-Apr-2012 04:13 pm (UTC)
I agree!
redstar826 24th-Apr-2012 02:06 pm (UTC)
gay agenda! bestiality! won't someone think of the children? It's okay, I have a gay friend!

I gotta bingo! what do I win?
bnmc2005 24th-Apr-2012 02:59 pm (UTC)
Fuck fuck fuck fcuk fuck fuck fuck fuckf cuzoiansd'oivjasdiovha'iospdv'aoisd'voiajsd;lvkna;skdncv.amajfqhit348h[gqhghuadufsd
bnmc2005 24th-Apr-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
No mention of how this would affect several student GSA groups. NONE AT ALL.
No mention of how this would affect student suicide rate. NONE AT ALL.

FUCK ALL THIS ASSHOLES!
crossfire 24th-Apr-2012 03:48 pm (UTC)
Republican lawmakers have been pushing to add gun owners to the listed of residents who cannot be discriminated against in the workplace.

OH FUCK THAT
missmurchison 24th-Apr-2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
I went to work one day last year and there was a big new sign on the door stating that guns are not allowed inside. I don't want to imagine the incident that prompted that. I'm sure I could have found out if I asked, but I'm not really hooked into the gossip network any more. (I just got too sick of hearing about someone's husband's meth addiction, etc. that I turned into a cubicle hermit.)

This is a building with high security. We're not even allowed to have paper documents on our desks and it's a battle just to get into our computers because of all the layers of passwords. But apparently someone thought a gun would be just dandy to have around.
lovedforaday 24th-Apr-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
i'm surprised these Missouri lawmakers are still giving statements and interviews to the lamestream liberal media. i would have thought they would decide to only talk to their local papers in the little echo chamber districts like old dude from Fairdealing.
bnmc2005 24th-Apr-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
It's also important to point out that my bill does not target a particular sexual orientation but instead says instruction or materials related to any sexual orientation should not take place in our public schools.

This statement assumes that heterosexuality is NOT an orientation of course. If we viewed this "fairly" it would mean that absolutely no discussion of Heterosexuality will happen at all So Forget- every discussion of Shakespeare, The Classics, Ulyssess, poetry, anything realted to hetero-marriage in history ... of fuck you this excuse is so fucking thin.. I can't even.

Bullshit bullshit bullshit. FUCK YOU.
thecityofdis 24th-Apr-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
annnnnnnnnnnnnnd fuck straight people.
magus_69 24th-Apr-2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
CO-SIGNED!
bnmc2005 24th-Apr-2012 04:38 pm (UTC)
This would not prohibit a student struggling with his or her sexual identity from talking to a school counselor or cause any of the other issues that have been misreported by the media.

It would however prohibit that student from forming a group of like minded students and allies to discuss anything related to their life experience and issues of oppression, bullying, discrimination etc. It WOULD however, prohibit, a teacher from making mention of anyone in history who might also have struggled with their own sexual identity and what obstacles that person happend to overcome or how that issues affected their life experience. It WOULD however make each and every glbt student feel like their very identities are something to be 'COUNSELED', rather than allow the issue to be treated as normal and everyday and open to discussion JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE'S.
bnmc2005 24th-Apr-2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
Meanwhile, Republican lawmakers have been pushing to add gun owners to the listed of residents who cannot be discriminated against in the workplace.

Gays are not people. Guns are people.
crossfire 24th-Apr-2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
You just know that's because ONE dudebro wasn't allowed to take his .357 to work and he bitched about it.

I just can't with this bullshit.
velveteenkitten 24th-Apr-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
Damn us non-straights and our agendas!!
lovedforaday 24th-Apr-2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
added to the post.
saoru 24th-Apr-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
Gosh I hate my state :)
ayarane 24th-Apr-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
New rule:

No GOP may fling around accusations of a "homosexual agenda" without being to describe in SOME kind of detail what said agenda IS.

You can't just say "oh noes, they're trying to push their gay agenda" and then backpedal by not knowing what the plot entails. It's like saying you hate Star Wars without having ever seen the movies.
beoweasel 24th-Apr-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
No GOP may fling around accusations of a "homosexual agenda" without being to describe in SOME kind of detail what said agenda IS

To turn all our poor, innocent straight children into depraved, gay sex slaves! :O
qable 24th-Apr-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
bushy_brow 24th-Apr-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
I LOLed. Then I went *sadface*.
tabaqui 25th-Apr-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
Fuck these people. My state has been embarrassing itself and a lot of its residents all over the place, and this is just one more fucking stupid, disgusting incident. I've been reading some local news coverage that is *not* favorable, so hopefully this won't go anywhere.
anus 25th-Apr-2012 01:11 am (UTC)
I don't know why I thought 'Don't Say Gay' bill meant that they were going to outlaw using 'that's so gay' etc. I was so pissed off when I actually read the article >O
poetic_pixie_13 25th-Apr-2012 02:21 am (UTC)
"I'm not bigoted," he told HuffPost. "I have friends who are homosexual."

Kay. For all straight (white/cis/able-bodied/rich/male) folks. Just because you don't want to kill us doesn't mean that you pass some magical, arbritary test for not being a bigot. When you do things and say things and support things that make is hard for queer (poc/trans/disabled/poor/female) folks to live and work and love and simply exist you are kind of being a bigoted asshole. Intentionally, not intentionally, actively, passively, if you fucking do these things you are being a douchecanoe and need to get your shit in order. Lord.
little_rachael 25th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
Oh, fuck this. You know what? I think sexual orientation should be taught about. And not just to say, "Homosexuality exists," but "Homosexuality and bisexuality are okay." Or at least, that they are part of the normal human experience, that they're not illnesses, or perversions, or fucking punchlines. Same with transgender people. I think the schools should step up to the plate regarding transgender people, as well, before the Republicans start complaining about gender identity being discussed in the classroom. Let them complain!

I long for the day when people stop treating this like a political or religious issue. People who push for these bills couldn't care less about kids whose sexual orientations might be rejected by "parents, clergy and physicians."

Whether these politicians realize it or not--and I think they do realize it, and just don't give a fuck--this bill is discrimination, and it is hurting children. It's time to stop pretending that LGBT people don't exist. It's also time to stop being afraid of offending bigots It's been 43 years since Stonewall, and some people still haven't gotten over the fact that some people are gay. And they never will.

TL;DR the people pushing this bill can fuck right off.
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