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Egypt’s women urge MPs not to pass early marriage, sex-after-death laws

2:13 am - 04/27/2012
Egypt’s National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.

The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.

She was referring to two laws: one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14 and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.


According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included an appeal to parliament to avoid the controversial legislations that rid women of their rights of getting education and employment, under alleged religious interpretations.

“Talawi tried to underline in her message that marginalizing and undermining the status of women in future development plans would undoubtedly negatively affect the country’s human development, simply because women represent half the population,” Abdul Samea said in his article.

The controversy about a husband having sex with his dead wife came about after a Moroccan cleric spoke about the issue in May 2011.

Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.

Two years ago, Zamzami incited further controversy in Morocco when he said it was permissible for pregnant women to drink alcohol.

But it seems his view on partners having sex with their deceased partners has found its way to Egypt one year on.

Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”

“This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”

Many members of the newly-elected, and majority Islamist parliament, have been accused of launching attacks against women’s rights in the country.

They wish to cancel many, if not most, of the laws that promote women’s rights, most notably a law that allows a wife to obtain a divorce without obstructions from her partner. The implementation of the Islamic right to divorce law, also known as the Khula, ended years of hardship and legal battles women would have to endure when trying to obtain a divorce.

Egyptian law grants men the right to terminate a marriage, but grants women the opportunity to end an unhappy or abusive marriages without the obstruction of their partner. Prior to the implementation of the Khula over a decade ago, it could take 10 to 15 years for a woman to be granted a divorce by the courts.

Islamist members of Egyptian parliament, however, accuse these laws of “aiming to destroy families” and have said it was passed to please the former first lady of the fallen regime, Suzanne Mubarak, who devoted much of her attention to the issues of granting the women all her rights.

The parliamentary attacks on women’s rights has drawn great criticism from women’s organizations, who dismissed the calls and accused the MPs of wishing to destroy the little gains Egyptian women attained after long years of organized struggle.


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popehippo 27th-Apr-2012 03:47 am (UTC)
allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death

all the rest is bullshit as well but WOW that's an eye-popper.
effervescent 27th-Apr-2012 03:51 am (UTC)
I was just coming here to say that. Wtf is this crap? Why on earth... You know, I don't want to know.
othellia 27th-Apr-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death

Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:
latin_lunatic 27th-Apr-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
tabaqui 27th-Apr-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
For fuck's sake. Just...no. Hell no.
xbriyeon 27th-Apr-2012 04:10 am (UTC)
what.. the fucking.. fuck..

legalized necrophilia. wonderful.

(WHAT THE FUCK.)
sakuraberries 27th-Apr-2012 04:13 am (UTC)
wtf. so there's barely enough food to go around in Egypt and the government is discussing how to best strip women of the rights they have? ffs. why is that in any way a top priority?

also, ugh at that Imam and that ridiculous fatwa, which sounds like completely unjustifiable, contrived bullshit, but now that he's said it people are going to go around screaming, "hey, look! those crazy muslims have sex with dead bodies! see, we told you, they're batshit!" UGH.
tenaciousrei 27th-Apr-2012 04:16 am (UTC)
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey?cmpid=addthis_email#.T5nEqMQOQoo.email

This says the whole 'Necrophilia law' is fake.

Also that cleric that is mentions is not credible in the Muslim world and is very much on the fringe.
fenris_lorsrai 27th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
comment twins! you posted while I was typing.
alryssa 27th-Apr-2012 05:47 am (UTC)
Thank fuck for that because I was just picking up pieces of my brain from the floor here.



fenris_lorsrai 27th-Apr-2012 04:16 am (UTC)
Christian Science Monitor is calling shenanigans on the story as being reporting an opinion piece as a law, rather than OPINION.
hellaine 27th-Apr-2012 01:52 pm (UTC)
Im so confused on this because my friend in Egypt is insisting it IS true and they've already discussed it in parliament, whereas even the comments from egyptians at the alarabiya article say it is either false or even if true, some wingnut idea that would never get through parliament.

alarabiya haven't updated their article since wednesday but i see huffpo and dailyfail have both updated to say today it's rumour they are hearing out of egypt but the heads out their havent returned calls or something or other.
ms_maree 27th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
Honestly, why would you want to have sex with your dead wife? Why? Do you know what happens to a person just after they die, you do not want to go there.

I think I need to have a shower.
bitchsdangerous 27th-Apr-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
MFTE
stevie_jane 27th-Apr-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
Please don't let these ever be real laws because they sound just like shit bigots pull out of their asses to defend hating muslims wholesale.

Dead women and 14 year old girls should not be on any man's sexual radar never mind it being written into law as an acceptable practice. Also, why do so many religious types always think it's a must to deny girls a good education and a chance at a career and then expect others to agree with that stance like it's the best idea ever? Talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

More power to the NCW, we can only hope their voices don't get drowned out.
lunchy 27th-Apr-2012 04:33 am (UTC)
and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.

What. The fucking. FUCK?!
spyral_path 27th-Apr-2012 08:51 am (UTC)
I think the reason there wasn't a law against necrophilia before then was because it just doesn't occur to the average person that we need a law to stop people from having sex with dead bodies.
iamduvet 27th-Apr-2012 05:36 am (UTC)


WTF!
alryssa 27th-Apr-2012 05:45 am (UTC)
permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.


and BOOM goes the dynamite in my skull

what

what is this

WHY IS THIS EVEN A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME, OH MY GOD


edit: oh thank fuck this is not actually a thing but oh my god


Edited at 2012-04-27 06:22 am (UTC)
thisisviolent I've lost my belief in humanity a long time ago.27th-Apr-2012 06:39 am (UTC)
WHO NEEDS THE DEVIL WHEN YOU HAVE THE HUMAN CREATURE.


In moments like these I am ashamed of my human race. SO SO MUCH.

recorded 27th-Apr-2012 07:41 am (UTC)
johnjie 27th-Apr-2012 12:27 pm (UTC)
allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death

Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.


Not to mention

one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14

For fuck's sake, fourteen year olds and dead people should be off adult's sexual radar.
hashishinahooka 27th-Apr-2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
Maybe my info is outdated, but isn't marriage at 14 still legal in some states here in the US?
coyotesuspect 27th-Apr-2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
Generally with parental consent, but yep.
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