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Vegan pet food triggers meaty debate

9:42 am - 05/02/2012
Vets have advised against non-meat and non-dairy diets for domestic pets despite the increasing popularity of a vegan product designed to cover cats' and dogs' dietary needs.

Vegan Pet was developed by a Victorian health food maker to include the essential nutrients cats and dogs would miss out on in a vegan diet.

Derived from entirely non-dairy and non-meat sources and designed with the help of a Murdoch University professor, studies have shown it can provide the short-term dietary needs of domestic pets.

It is sold in Queensland at the ethical alternative pet food store Complete Pet Company in Keperra. Owner and operator Jenny Golsby says vegan and vegetarian pet foods are becoming more popular as pet owners search out ethical alternatives to mainstream pet food.

Despite the product's growing popularity and dietary provisions, veterinarians still hold concerns a non-meat diet could harm domestic animals, especially cats.

Australian Small Animal Veterinary Association president David Neck said he would immediately advise owners against feeding their animals an exclusively non-meat and non-dairy diet.

Dr Neck was particularly concerned with how a non-meat diet could provide carnivores, such as cats, "a complete and satisfying" meal.

"Millions of years of evolution have dictated what is best to go into these animals, and [some pet owners] trying to change that in the course of one generation does not make sense to me," he said.

"It really is a concept I struggle to come to terms with, that you would take what is the natural diet of such an animal and alter it in such a radical way.

"I can tell you from my experience with cats and dogs they don't have any ethics about where their food source is derived from.

"If a vegan pet owner is making that decision on behalf of a pet that they own, they should perhaps consider the reasons they have that pet."

Vegan Pet creator Sandy Anderson said she understood the concern veterinarians had with animals being fed vegan food.

Her decision to develop dry food and tinned food products was motivated by the concerns she had seeing her friends feed their animals vegan food not designed for pets.

"I realised the animals weren't getting everything they needed having studied a basic nutrition course," Ms Anderson said.

"So what I did then, for their good, was try and find out whether you can have vegan cat food [with the proper nutrients]."

Ms Anderson developed the products with the help of Nick Costa, head of biochemistry and nutrition at Murdoch University's School of Veterinary and Biomedical Science, ensuring the food met the needs for complete and balanced diet, according to the dietary requirements tabled by the Association of American Feed Control Officials.

The food passed tests for short-term effects, palpability and digestibility.

Concerned with the quality of pet food sold by mainstream distributors, Ms Anderson said the proof of the food's suitability for animals was in their reaction to it.

"Some animals have been on it for eight or nine years and they are still thriving on it," she said.

"People say that cats are carnivore and they should be fed meat, which they should.

"But my theory is if you can feed an equivalent that the cat enjoys equally and it supplies everyone of those nutrients in the meat source, what harm is being done?"

Professor Costa said long-term studies needed to be conducted on the product and he personally believed a meat diet was preferable for cats.

But he said the product was a viable alternative for people wanting to feed their animal a vegan diet.

"What it does do, through Sandy's efforts, is for those people who are vegans, and who eschew red meat completely, and meat products generally, then this gives them an alternative that has complete and balanced nutrient profile that has been partially tested in terms of digestibility and palatability," Professor Costa said.

"What it hasn't been tested for is long-term trials, where you can see if it is affecting reproduction long term, heart function long term, through taurine, or whether it is affecting visual processes long term.

"But in support of the food it has been going a decade and if those systems were problematic Sandy would have heard from people who had been suing it by now."

Dr Neck believes there is another solution for animal lovers keen to feed their animals a vegan diet.

"If you're a vegan, and you have ethical concerns about feeding animal-derived protein to your pet, well I could probably recommend a rabbit or a guinea pig as a pet, that you can source their nutrients from," he said.

"Rather than make ethical choices for an animal."

Hmmm, well I know one thing about my cat, there is nothing that gets him more excited than fresh chicken or tuna he gets once a week. He'll eat the dry processed food happily - but he'll only go into kittty paroxyms of joy over meat. But I do wonder if the vegan option has a less offensive kitty litter odour, I might try it for a while to see (but he'll still get his chicken)

augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 01:11 am (UTC)
Little ticks me off more than veg*ns feeding inappropriate diets. I'm vegan, and my dogs and cat get fed a quality meat-based kibble with no grains (they'd be on raw if I had the ability to do so).

If you want a healthier cat, try upgrading your cat's food (Taste Of The Wild is best for how cheap it is, but there are plenty of higher foods like the grain-free versions of Blue Buffalo, Wellness, Orijen, etc.) Cats and dogs are so much healthier when fed meat-based, grain-free diets.
augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
And FFS, can we just not with people thinking that a carnivorous animal eating meat is the same as a human eating meat? Because it's not. You going to the store to pick up a steak =/= a coyote hunting rabbit. Cats and dogs need meat because that is how they thrive; humans do better on plant based diets.
layweed 2nd-May-2012 01:46 am (UTC)
Humans also have one huge advantage that animals don't have when it comes to diets: condiments and spices.
skellington1 2nd-May-2012 01:53 am (UTC)
And I can never be a vegetarian, because I file 'bacon' under 'condiments and spices.' :P
layweed 2nd-May-2012 01:58 am (UTC)
Apparently you can get bacon salt that's vegetarian and kosher and what not. Idk, can't make up for an actual slice of bacon (or 4), but still.
skellington1 2nd-May-2012 02:00 am (UTC)
Wow. That's almost as bizarre as fat-free half-n-half.
layweed 2nd-May-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
Yeah I really don't understand. They also claim to have natural bacon flavor, which strikes me as impossible since it's simultaneously vegetarian and kosher (which I would assume has to mean pig product free?).
texasoddity 2nd-May-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
Bacon salt is actually pretty good on sweet potato fries but it is not by any means a sub for bacon.
keestone 2nd-May-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
Just parse it as a "natural flavor" that tastes like bacon.
lickety_split 2nd-May-2012 02:52 am (UTC)
Just what is the point of fat-free half-n-half??
lickety_split 2nd-May-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
I have super taste buds so whenever I hear "fat free" or "sugar free" that's usually a Red Flag for aspartame.....which tastes like chemical.

Still though, fat-free half-n-half sounds like a copout. Go hard.
skellington1 2nd-May-2012 05:41 am (UTC)
Search me. I just assume it's a carton of pure evil - and not the fun kind.
carmy_w 2nd-May-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
Yes, and it's also completely dairy-free, if I recall correctly.
zendequervain 2nd-May-2012 12:48 pm (UTC)
Bacon Salt is amazing on eggs. :3

Wow, that was a terrible thing for me to say. Sorry about that, I'm clearly not properly caffeinated yet this morning.

Edited at 2012-05-02 12:52 pm (UTC)
ellenel13 2nd-May-2012 03:29 am (UTC)
A human who eats moderate servings of meat that comes from animals that haven't been fed hormones are just healthy as humans who are vegans and vegetarians.
augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
Want to quote a source for that?
ellenel13 2nd-May-2012 04:23 am (UTC)
All textbooks on human nutrition I've ever read? Do your own damned research.
augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
I'm asking for sources because all of the research I've read says otherwise. If you're going to try and refute what I've said, you should at least have some kind of proof behind it.

(Also, being able to eat small amounts of organic meat does not refute the fact that humans do best on plant-based diets.)
augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
So basically you're saying that you have to eat really small servings of meat (preferably organic) in order for eating meat to be healthy? Because that's kind of my point -- humans do best on a plant based diet. Sure, eating meat occasionally won't kill you, but it's not ideal.
mirhanda 2nd-May-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
Lets say that some humans do better on plant based diets. Because some of us really don't do well on that sort of diet at all.
augustcoyote 2nd-May-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
From the research I've read, yes, humans as a whole do best on plant based diets. Obviously there are some exceptions.
mirhanda 2nd-May-2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
There's a lot of new stuff coming out that doesn't agree, or at least the modern, Western version of that sort of eating. I know I can't do it anymore. Since I switched to a very low carbohydrate diet, I get migraines much less often. I could list a whole lot of stuff that's improved since I went off grains, but I won't because who cares except me? Haha! Anyway while some people can be vegetarian, some of us really can't.
moonshaz 3rd-May-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
I could not agree more!
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