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Vegan pet food triggers meaty debate

9:42 am - 05/02/2012
Vets have advised against non-meat and non-dairy diets for domestic pets despite the increasing popularity of a vegan product designed to cover cats' and dogs' dietary needs.

Vegan Pet was developed by a Victorian health food maker to include the essential nutrients cats and dogs would miss out on in a vegan diet.

Derived from entirely non-dairy and non-meat sources and designed with the help of a Murdoch University professor, studies have shown it can provide the short-term dietary needs of domestic pets.

It is sold in Queensland at the ethical alternative pet food store Complete Pet Company in Keperra. Owner and operator Jenny Golsby says vegan and vegetarian pet foods are becoming more popular as pet owners search out ethical alternatives to mainstream pet food.

Despite the product's growing popularity and dietary provisions, veterinarians still hold concerns a non-meat diet could harm domestic animals, especially cats.

Australian Small Animal Veterinary Association president David Neck said he would immediately advise owners against feeding their animals an exclusively non-meat and non-dairy diet.

Dr Neck was particularly concerned with how a non-meat diet could provide carnivores, such as cats, "a complete and satisfying" meal.

"Millions of years of evolution have dictated what is best to go into these animals, and [some pet owners] trying to change that in the course of one generation does not make sense to me," he said.

"It really is a concept I struggle to come to terms with, that you would take what is the natural diet of such an animal and alter it in such a radical way.

"I can tell you from my experience with cats and dogs they don't have any ethics about where their food source is derived from.

"If a vegan pet owner is making that decision on behalf of a pet that they own, they should perhaps consider the reasons they have that pet."

Vegan Pet creator Sandy Anderson said she understood the concern veterinarians had with animals being fed vegan food.

Her decision to develop dry food and tinned food products was motivated by the concerns she had seeing her friends feed their animals vegan food not designed for pets.

"I realised the animals weren't getting everything they needed having studied a basic nutrition course," Ms Anderson said.

"So what I did then, for their good, was try and find out whether you can have vegan cat food [with the proper nutrients]."

Ms Anderson developed the products with the help of Nick Costa, head of biochemistry and nutrition at Murdoch University's School of Veterinary and Biomedical Science, ensuring the food met the needs for complete and balanced diet, according to the dietary requirements tabled by the Association of American Feed Control Officials.

The food passed tests for short-term effects, palpability and digestibility.

Concerned with the quality of pet food sold by mainstream distributors, Ms Anderson said the proof of the food's suitability for animals was in their reaction to it.

"Some animals have been on it for eight or nine years and they are still thriving on it," she said.

"People say that cats are carnivore and they should be fed meat, which they should.

"But my theory is if you can feed an equivalent that the cat enjoys equally and it supplies everyone of those nutrients in the meat source, what harm is being done?"

Professor Costa said long-term studies needed to be conducted on the product and he personally believed a meat diet was preferable for cats.

But he said the product was a viable alternative for people wanting to feed their animal a vegan diet.

"What it does do, through Sandy's efforts, is for those people who are vegans, and who eschew red meat completely, and meat products generally, then this gives them an alternative that has complete and balanced nutrient profile that has been partially tested in terms of digestibility and palatability," Professor Costa said.

"What it hasn't been tested for is long-term trials, where you can see if it is affecting reproduction long term, heart function long term, through taurine, or whether it is affecting visual processes long term.

"But in support of the food it has been going a decade and if those systems were problematic Sandy would have heard from people who had been suing it by now."

Dr Neck believes there is another solution for animal lovers keen to feed their animals a vegan diet.

"If you're a vegan, and you have ethical concerns about feeding animal-derived protein to your pet, well I could probably recommend a rabbit or a guinea pig as a pet, that you can source their nutrients from," he said.

"Rather than make ethical choices for an animal."

Hmmm, well I know one thing about my cat, there is nothing that gets him more excited than fresh chicken or tuna he gets once a week. He'll eat the dry processed food happily - but he'll only go into kittty paroxyms of joy over meat. But I do wonder if the vegan option has a less offensive kitty litter odour, I might try it for a while to see (but he'll still get his chicken)

perthro 2nd-May-2012 01:51 am (UTC)
My cats are all on a rotation of Wellness, Innova, or Evos 99% meat foods, all in the wheat-and-fish-free varieties. Check the ingredients labels carefully. They run about $2.50/12oz can, or $35-ish a case. I check to see who has sales locally and online, and get whichever one I can afford in as large of a quantity as I can. They get 2-3oz per meal. It will seem small, but it's packed with nutrients, so they need less to maintain their weight. Sometimes they still beg for food because they used to eat a lot more in dry, so I mix it with a little psyllium husk or pumpkin. Not all cats like pumpkin, but it's good for fiber to help them feel more full.

I paid about $16/case for Fancy Feast. For all the gravy and carbs and such in that, they were getting sick. Ounce for ounce, between coupons from the manufacturer and sales, I pay about the same or less for the good stuff than I did for the 'cheap' stuff. It might take a little more work to get it, if you go the deal-hunting route. I think of it this way: time hunting for good cat food, or time and suffering for vet care. If money isn't an issue, you can get any of this stuff at Petco or Petsmart.
layweed 2nd-May-2012 01:54 am (UTC)
I feed mine a 3oz can of BFF which is about $1 per can ( + grazing Wellness Core dry), vs Fancy Feast which was around $0.50 a can, and it seems to be a helluva lot better. You can actually see the chunks of meat too, it's not some ground up mashed chunk of amorphous meat blobbbb like a lot of Fancy Feast is.

Funny you should mention pumpkin. Pumpkin is currently in one of the wet foods in his rotation, and I thought it'd be weird, but he eats it like any other food.

Edited at 2012-05-02 02:00 am (UTC)
perthro 2nd-May-2012 02:06 am (UTC)
Pumpkin was something a vet recommended because of the vitamin content and fiber. It's sweet, so most cats really like it. They don't need a whole lot, being a carb-y food and all, but a few spoonfuls mixed in here and there doesn't hurt. It's not nearly as bad as giving them a can of gravy and mystery meat product. Lovecraft will attack me if he thinks I have pumpkin. If I turn around to get his wet food out with an open can on the counter, he'll stick his whole face in it. >D He's the same one who likes eggs. Cats. Oy.
castalianspring 2nd-May-2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
Interesting. So you just use the canned pureed pumpkin?
perthro 2nd-May-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
Yep! Organic, if I can get it. The best time to really stock up is after Thanksgiving. Walgreens of all places was practically GIVING away organic pumpkin for about .75 a can.

The great thing about knowing what people foods are safe and nutritious for my cat is when we're completely broke from some random crisis, and yet can feed them on our food stamps without them getting sick. It's a lifesaver. Literally. They rarely ever have to go to the vet these days. One of them has stopped having UTIs- and he had chronic UTIs and crystals before I took over his care! Now he's a happy panther cat with a nice coat and plenty of chicken. :P
crossfire 2nd-May-2012 07:54 pm (UTC)
I have learned a lot from your comments here. I don't have a cat--my partner is allergic, alas--but I love them and if we ever got one I'm glad to know all of this.
castalianspring 2nd-May-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
Thanks, I'll keep the pumpkin in mind for the next kitty. I'm missing mine something fierce after losing her this past year, and I'm itching to adopt. I'd like to start off with the best food I can.
iheartomntd 2nd-May-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
thanks :). Money isn't in issue, I just prefer to keep them on dry food with the occasional wet food because of their teeth. They used to be on solely a wet-based food but they both ended up getting really bad tartar buildup, even with weekly brushing. I've just stuck with the Purina brand because they've always done well but now that they are getting a little older; one is 5 and the other is 2, they're both showing lack of interest and both responded negatively to the brand I bought from the vet, so I want to start them on something that is dry-food based but is very high quality and that they will actually like.
perthro 2nd-May-2012 02:18 am (UTC)
I'd check the same companies. Any dry food is going to have a high carb content, which would be a concern if yours are prone to glucose disorders, but if you break it up with chicken scraps or something, they'll probably be fine. ^_^ I try to read ingredients endlessly now. For human and pet foods.

Here's the 2007 melamine recall list, if you're wondering about brands. http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/newpetfoodrecalls/brand_list.cfm?Trade_Name=Prescription%20Diet&pet=Cat

There used to be a blog documenting nothing but pet food recalls, but I can't remember the URL now... x.x
skellington1 2nd-May-2012 02:23 am (UTC)
Dry food is always higher carb than wet, but it still varies. I feed EVO dry food (the chicken kind) in the morning and EVO wet at night. I'd rather buy Nature's Instinct Dry (cheaper, similar profile) but the kits went on a kibble strike so I switched it up.
hinoema 2nd-May-2012 01:48 pm (UTC)
I was reading that Innova was bought out and has really gone downhill... have you noticed that?
sephirajo 2nd-May-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
Commenting here to thank you for all your cat food posts. I've learned a lot and am trying to find some better stuff for my kitties online that I can afford. :)

Lots of awesome info in this thread :D
terribilita 2nd-May-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Is there benefits to rotating food brands? Is it just brands or can you rotate flavors from the same brand?

Thanks for all the info!
perthro 2nd-May-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
No real benefit I think. My cats will pretty much eat anything, including things cats aren't supposed to eat. It's just that when you have five of them and virtually no income, you have to really pay attention to sales and sourcing a way to feed them all. We feed the cats before we feed us. We will not die from two weeks on noodles and veggies. The cats might. For us, cats = srs bznss. When one brand is on sale, and it's compatible with their needs, we calculate how much it'll save (not all sales save money), and spend as much as possible to stock back while we can.
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