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HISTORIC: Obama endorses marriage equality

3:15 pm - 05/09/2012


President Obama ended his 19-month long evolution on the issue of extending marriage rights to gay couples on Wednesday when he voiced support for marriage equality.

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, Obama said “I’ve stood on the side of broader equality for the LGBT community; I hesitated on gay marriage because I thought that civil unions would be sufficient…

“I was sensitive to the fact that for a lot of people the word marriage evokes very powerful traditions religions beliefs so forth.”

“…Over the course of several years — when I talk to friends family, neighbors, members of my own staff… — at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to affirm that I think same sex couples should get married.

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Sauce has glitter in it.

Right now I'm just happy it happened. Late, maybe. But it happened.

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johnjie 9th-May-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
I'm very glad Obama's endorsed gay marriage...

Now let's see what happens.
roguebelle 9th-May-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
Y'know what? Fuck it. I don't care if this was a calculated political move and way overdue. It's still huge. He's done what no other President has done.

And the best part is -- and the part which might actually affect more policy -- this might mobilize other Dems to do the same. Other Dems who do support these rights but have never taken a firm stand for fear of reprisal. If the President can do it, the rest of them can man- or woman-up.
moonshaz 9th-May-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
This.

And for those who say they'll be happy when he does something, I think this is his way of telegraphing that he DOES intend to do something. It has to start somewhere. Letting the world know where he stands makes sense as a starting point to me.
etherealtsuki 9th-May-2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
My grandmother is pissed and called me to complain about it and I wasn't having that shit today as much as I love her.

Although it was a stark reminder of why I stay closeted to my family as bisexual though.
mysticlady3 9th-May-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
I feel you, in the whole closet thing.
bluelarkspur 9th-May-2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
Maybe it's because I'm super cynical about Obama in the first place and this was a nice surprise, or because I just read some really gross anti-gay comments on an article about the NC vote, but I'll just give Obama a thumbs-up. Obviously he hasn't been great on the issue, and it's hardly a super brave move, but I get why he didn't take a stand before, as shitty as it was (there's an interesting disconnect between those saying how behind the curve he is and the conservatives whining.) I definitely get people's complaints, but I dunno, I'm not really interested in analyzing his motives or dwelling on the past - just in asking what ways he's willing to do to actually help.
wonderpup E-mail from the Pres (lol)9th-May-2012 11:47 pm (UTC)
________ --

Today, I was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer:

I believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.

I hope you'll take a moment to watch the conversation, consider it, and weigh in yourself on behalf of marriage equality:

http://my.barackobama.com/Marriage

I've always believed that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly and equally. I was reluctant to use the term marriage because of the very powerful traditions it evokes. And I thought civil union laws that conferred legal rights upon gay and lesbian couples were a solution.

But over the course of several years I've talked to friends and family about this. I've thought about members of my staff in long-term, committed, same-sex relationships who are raising kids together. Through our efforts to end the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, I've gotten to know some of the gay and lesbian troops who are serving our country with honor and distinction.

What I've come to realize is that for loving, same-sex couples, the denial of marriage equality means that, in their eyes and the eyes of their children, they are still considered less than full citizens.

Even at my own dinner table, when I look at Sasha and Malia, who have friends whose parents are same-sex couples, I know it wouldn't dawn on them that their friends' parents should be treated differently.

So I decided it was time to affirm my personal belief that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.

I respect the beliefs of others, and the right of religious institutions to act in accordance with their own doctrines. But I believe that in the eyes of the law, all Americans should be treated equally. And where states enact same-sex marriage, no federal act should invalidate them.

If you agree, you can stand up with me here.

Thank you,

Barack
redstar826 9th-May-2012 11:57 pm (UTC)
Also, I think this whole we should leave it to the states to decide thing is pretty shitty. Letting the states decide has been a fucking disaster for queer people.
fishphile 10th-May-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
YES to this. That seriously just makes me sad and angry. It will be many years for some of us. Some of us have this in our state's constitution already and overturning it will be difficult.
tabaqui 10th-May-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
YES.
pamuya 10th-May-2012 12:11 am (UTC)
this made me so happy!!
browneyedguuurl 10th-May-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
Awesome!

People really need to chill out and enjoy the victory. This is the first time a sitting President has come right out and say they support this. I mean, do you all think President McCain, Vice President Palin or maybe future President Mittens would have the balls to say this?! Yes there is work to be done, but it is a big step forward.
chaya 10th-May-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
Guuuuuuuurl telling people to chill out isn't going to get the result you were hoping for
popehippo 10th-May-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
I don't give a flying fuck why he said it; anyone who says the major political leader says anything without checking and double-checking on whether or not it'll actually work for them is pretty damn glazed over in the eyes.

But it happened. It should've happened sooner, yes, but Could've Would've Should've. After NC yesterday, I'll take one man's late approval over 60% of a state population saying no.
thecityofdis 10th-May-2012 01:48 am (UTC)
I don't give a flying fuck why he said it; anyone who says the major political leader says anything without checking and double-checking on whether or not it'll actually work for them is pretty damn glazed over in the eyes.

A WILD PIECE OF COMMON SENSE APPEARS

COME HERE, COMMON SENSE, LET ME LOVE YOU
angry_chick 10th-May-2012 03:10 am (UTC)
*viewing this solely as fodder for an election year.*

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but I'll believe it when I see it. Talk don't pay no bills. It's nice to feel good, and I don't begrudge anyone that, but I feel like this is what a not-shitty person SHOULD BE DOING.

Fuck throwing crumbs. I want the motherfuckin' pie.

Edited at 2012-05-10 03:25 am (UTC)
serious_mccoy 10th-May-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
Ah. So, he said a nice thing. That's nice.
angry_chick 10th-May-2012 03:24 am (UTC)
IKR
romp 10th-May-2012 07:07 am (UTC)
It interesting to see how many people are angry. Yes, this was a calculated move. Who would expect anything else? And it's fine by me because I don't want him to lose in November.

Is this infuriating to people who thought this was going to be wrapped up a few years ago? Or did they think Obama was a radical who would transform the US? I understand righteous anger but I think it's naive or self-defeating to demand all change happen NOW...or we reject any change.
roseofjuly 10th-May-2012 07:21 am (UTC)
I do not resent the people who are ecstatic/partying over this. Enjoy! I am glad you are happy. I am happy too, in a muted kind of way.

What I do resent is people telling me (paraphrased):

1) "Progress takes time! I mean who really cares that it took him 4 years and had suspect political timing? JUST WAIT AND BE PATIENT." (Spoken to every minority everywhere.)
2) "Jesus Christ, why can't you just be happy he threw you guys a bone?"
3) "I mean, none of the OTHER candidates would've said something like this. So that makes this objectively good."

IMO, when you really get down to it all Obama said is that he believes that LGBT people should have rights just like everyone else. And while I'm glad he said it - it's not particularly inspired, or new, or an epiphany. It's "I looked around, and guess what guys, there are gay people EVERYWHERE! And they are just like me and you!" Oh.
chaya 10th-May-2012 01:04 pm (UTC)
This is a good comment and you should feel good for writing it.
delphshadow 10th-May-2012 08:01 am (UTC)
Simply amazing. Any halfway intelligent person has known precisely what Obama thinks about gay marriage for years now but Obama himself knew which way the tide was flowing and decided to avoid getting a pie in the face over the issue. Now, as a president grasping at anything that might give him reelection he chose to finally tell the truth about his position right after one of the swing states vital to his reelection strongly affirmed itself to be opposed to his position. How he plans to win reelection by throwing large numbers of potential voters overboard in pursuit of a tiny faction of the political scene is beyond my comprehension but I fully support the president sabotaging himself. :)
fornikate 10th-May-2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
mte
souchipi 10th-May-2012 11:07 am (UTC)
almightyspaz 10th-May-2012 02:13 pm (UTC)
Yay, he wants me to have the ability to marry whomever I want. Thanks ever so much....

I'm happy and cynical at the same time. Whatever, wasn't like I planned on voting for Rommney anyway.
fishphile 10th-May-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Bookmarking this post for when some troll comes through talking about how we're all a hive mind.
chaya 10th-May-2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
The creepy v_t 'banned' community says you can't get away with criticizing Obama on this comm. I read that and was like "... I thought the whole point was that you're obsessively stalking our comm. Have you not seen this?"
little_rachael 11th-May-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
To celebrate:

Victory music!
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