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CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Pulls Ahead of Obama--Among Women

1:34 am - 05/16/2012
CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Pulls Ahead of Obama--Among Women

(CNSNews.com) - A CBS/New York Times poll on the presidential race released Monday showed that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has not only moved ahead of President Barack Obama 46 percent to 43 percent among all registered voters, but also that Romney has moved ahead of Obama among female registered voters.

In the CBS/New York Times poll released a month ago, Obama led Romney among women 49 percent to 43 percent. In the new poll, Romney leads Obama among women 46 percent to 44 percent.

Last month’s CBS/New York Times poll was conducted April 13-17. This month’s poll was conducted May 11-13. In the month between these two polls, Obama lost 5 points among women and Romney gained 3 points.


In the current poll, Romney also leads Obama among men, 45 percent to 42 percent. A month ago, he led Obama among men, 49 percent to 43 percent. So, from April to May, Romney lost 4 points among men compared to Obama's loss of only 1 point among men.

Nonetheless, Obama’s decreasing strength among women voters and Romney’s increasing strength among women voters put Romney ahead in the overall poll.

Last month, among all registered voters, Romney and Obama were tied in the CBS/New York Times poll at 46 percent a piece.

Romney's current 46 percent to 43 percent lead over Obama in the overall poll is within the poll's 4-point margin of error.

The respondents to the poll were asked: "If the 2012 presidential election were being held today and the candidates were Barack Obama, the Democrat, and Mitt Romney, the Republican, would you vote for Barack Obama or Mitt Romney."

According to a sheet including the historical trends in the poll that was released by the New York Times, 27 percent of the respondents to this survey said they were Republicans, 35 percent said they were Democrats and 34 percent said they were Independents. In last month's poll, 26 percent said they were Republicans, 34 percent said they were Democrats, and 33 percent said they were Independents.



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OP thoughts: Sorry if this has already been posted but ... what?
85redberries 16th-May-2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
But why? I've read only all oppressive, ridiculous or horrible political things said by Romney. Not everything in President Obama's policies or ideas are oppressive, ridiculous and horrible. There's a difference in right-to-work vs. unions, economic regulations, views on Russia, pro-life vs. pro-choice, stem cell research, marriage, student loans, views of POC, etc.

And are you saying he mainly has the edge for you because it would be better to change things up for its own sake and are comfortable with how he leads your state?

Are you referring to indefinite detention in NDAA?
chasingtides 16th-May-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
NDAA, yes.

And I magically got healthcare under Romney (and sure Obamacare is based off Romney care, but in a bastardized, weaker form that's less awesome). Romney didn't infringe on LGBT rights while he was in office. He didn't go to war on women's rights. There's a lot that he says - like Obama, he talks big talk - and just never does. And maybe that's just what politicians do, but it does mean I'm paying more attention to their actions than their speech making.
85redberries 16th-May-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
I'm not talking about just what Obama says. I'm talking about what he supports and does, which is why I mentioned those specific things.

That NDAA clause doesn't make Obama worse than Bush and neither does assassinating US citizens. That's actually the same thing as Bush.

Romney says he plans to go to war against women's rights (get rid of PP fed funding!), but since he hasn't done horrible things like that yet then he won't? That's a bold prediction.
chasingtides 16th-May-2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
Did I miss Bush assassinating a US citizen? And the NDAA is actually separate from Patriot Act (which Obama did extend).
85redberries 16th-May-2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
Yup. Bush did that too--in Yemen too--and Condi said there were no constitutional rights issues.

The specific act or law the idea is present in is irrelevant. "Same shit, different stall."
chasingtides 16th-May-2012 04:52 pm (UTC)
Can you link me to an article detailing it, because I need more reasons to hate Bush?

But I'm not sure why showing that Obama and Bush are guilty of the same crime would convince me to vote for Obama.
85redberries 16th-May-2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
Uhmmm....I'm not trying to convince you to vote for Obama. I'm unsure of how you came to that conclusion. I'm responding to this: "Obama has done things, as president, that I find to be more unconscionable than Bush's acts. (These include, but are not limited to, the assassination of US citizens, the recent clauses slipped into the NDAA and passed New Year's eve, etc.)"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sleeper/inside/derwish.html
amyura 18th-May-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
He has done horrible things-- they some of them were stopped from taking effect because he was facing a state legislature with a veto-proof majority. He tried to restrict how Plan B could be sold/distributed-- Dems overrode him. He tried to put marriage equality up for a popular vote-- Dems let the proposal for the ballot question die in committee. (Scott Brown, on the other hand, was a VOCAL opponent of marriage equality while in the state, to the point where he went to a local high school and started using profanity in a speech to the kids on the issue.)

He also succeeded in pretending to balance the budget without raising taxes. While it's true that state income and capital gains taxes didn't go up, it's not true that taxes didn't go up. He drastically cut local aid, so towns were forced to raise property taxes and local fees. Romney also raised fees on everything across the board.
85redberries 19th-May-2012 09:45 am (UTC)
My apologies, I was running on a few days of no sleep. I should have been more clear that I for sure know he had done and attempted to do horrible things.
effervescent 16th-May-2012 04:40 pm (UTC)
What do you think of the amount of pressure that Romney would be under from the right to undo a lot of the good that Obama has done? In my opinion I think that Romney is going to be under huge amounts of pressure to reverse Obamacare, to reverse a lot of the good that Obama has done. That's what Republicans are itching for, right now, and I wouldn't have faith that their pressure isn't going to weigh heavily on Romney, especially considering he'd be a first term president. Yes, he needs to appeal to the centre, but he also needs to keep his base happy and voting, too.

Considering how much damage the Republicans have done to those goals when they weren't in power, I hate to think what they'd do when they are in power. Is there a reason you think that he's going to be immune from that sort of pressure? Just honestly asking.
chasingtides 16th-May-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
Pressure, sure, but I don't see why Romney, given his political track record, will behave differently on it than Obama. He'll be pressured, sure, and I haven't a doubt in my mind he'll talk big on it. But he'll do about as much about it as Obama, imo.

Of course, this is all just my personal opinion.
effervescent 16th-May-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I think I'm just getting the impression that the pressure will be big because the Republicans hate Obama so much and hate everything that he's done. That's why I think that Romney will end up giving in on a lot of things, just the same way that Obama has. I suppose if the House and Senate got a Democrat majority then it might not be so bad, but if it wasn't, then I think that while Obama tracked towards the centre, Romney would track more right, and that doesn't bode well for healthcare, women's rights, LGBT rights, etc.
chasingtides 16th-May-2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
That's entirely plausible.
meran_flash 16th-May-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
Except Romney will have a sympathetic, motivated congress that doesn't hate him for the color of his skin.
etherealtsuki 16th-May-2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
Political track record means shit, especially when he threw them away to get elected.

If anything, this election shows more of the true nature of Romney than his stint in New England.
fornikate 16th-May-2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
"Romney didn't infringe on LGBT rights while he was in office. He didn't go to war on women's rights"

maybe because he didn't have enough power to do so then. but if he becomes POTUS, i'd be worried about those rights.
dawn9476 16th-May-2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
Romney got rid of a state funded council that was designed to protect gay people
____jonas 16th-May-2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
Didn't he also refuse to allow out of state same-sex couples to apply for marriage licenses?
mysid 17th-May-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
And boasted about it.
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