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Mississippi Conservative Calls For Putting Gay People To Death On Facebook Page

7:49 pm - 05/19/2012
Republicans have been furiously attacking the LGBT community ever since President Obama announced his support of marriage equality for same-sex couples. Some Republicans have taken their criticism to the extreme. In Mississippi, GOP state Rep. Andy Gipson posted a message on his Facebook page which calls for putting gays and lesbians to death.

On May 10, Gipson made the following post:

“Been a lot of press on Obama’s opinion on “homosexual marriage.” The only opinion that counts is God’s: see Romans 1:26-28 and Leviticus 20:13. Anyway you slice it, it is sin. Not to mention horrific social policy.”

Later on in the thread, Gipson posts a comment about how homosexuality is “unnatural” and causes “disease.”

According to Leviticus 20:13, “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”


By referring to this Bible verse on his Facebook page, Gipson is in fact, calling for killing homosexuals. And he isn’t apologizing for it either.

After receiving an email petition from UnityMS calling for him to apologize, Gipson responded on Friday by posting the following message on Facebook:

“To be clear, I want the world to know that I do not, cannot, and will not apologize for the inspired truth of God’s Word. It is one thing that will never “change.” Anyone who knows me knows I also believe that all people are created in God’s image, and that all people are loved by God, so much so that He gave us the truth of His Word which convicts us of the reality and guilt of our sin, and He gave us His Son Jesus who paid the full penalty for all our sins, by His grace through our faith in Him as we repent of our sin. John 3:16. It is this message that I preach every Sunday. I sincerely pray God will reach someone through this message.”

As of Saturday, Gipson seems to have removed his offensive posts, but has not apologized. You can view his page here.

Gipson, like many other Republicans, puts Biblical law over Constitutional law. And as a state Representative, that’s a clear violation of separation of church and state and a failure to uphold the oath of office. You know, that oath in which politicians swear to defend the Constitution. The only lawful document that matters in America is the Constitution, but Republicans like Gipson want to light it on fire and pretend the Bible is the law of this country. It’s a dangerous view that would destroy freedom, liberty, and every other American value protected by the Constitution.

Openly calling for the deaths of American citizens because they happen to be gay is an egregious offense that should force Gipson to resign his position. Because it is clear that he is unable to adhere to Constitutional values such as equality and personal liberty.


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executivehpfan 19th-May-2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
BRB, spamming his wall with quotes from Jed Bartlet.
emofordino 19th-May-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
DO IT DO IT DO ITTTTTT! pleeeeeeease!
theoryofwar 19th-May-2012 10:02 pm (UTC)
He sounds like a pleasant guy.

I don't get this shit. How can anyone be so hateful?

So, when one of his kids comes out, is he going to kill them?

Edited at 2012-05-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
ellieet 19th-May-2012 10:04 pm (UTC)
"Horrific social policy..."

HORRIFIC? O_O Seriously, what the hell. That's just cruel.
evewithanapple 19th-May-2012 10:07 pm (UTC)
How many idiot facebook stories are we going to get today?
kseda 19th-May-2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
Maybe we could have a weekly "dumb shit people said on facebook" roundup post. Concentrate the fail that way.
bowtomecha 19th-May-2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable."

So men shouldn't put their penises into other men's vaginas? Okay then.
zombieroadtrip 19th-May-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
Let's not go here.
anolinde 19th-May-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
“To be clear, I want the world to know that I do not, cannot, and will not apologize for the inspired truth of God’s Word. It is one thing that will never “change.” Anyone who knows me knows I also believe that all people are created in God’s image, and that all people are loved by God, so much so that He gave us the truth of His Word which convicts us of the reality and guilt of our sin, and He gave us His Son Jesus who paid the full penalty for all our sins, by His grace through our faith in Him as we repent of our sin. John 3:16. It is this message that I preach every Sunday. I sincerely pray God will reach someone through this message.”

I'm sorry; but when people talk like this, I can't take them seriously.
shorofsky 20th-May-2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
Completely agree with you. It sounds so rehearsed and fake. I've never met anyone who truly lived their lives the way they talk about the Lord and Jesus, etc. Actually, that's not true, my brother in law's family is Mormon and they give a lot to charity and they are involved in all kinds of charities, not to mention they're wonderfully loving and giving people. But just straight up christians who spout junk like that as an answer to calls for death should just SD&STFU.
kalikahuntress 19th-May-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
How can these freaks talk about Jesus and still quote the Old testament? It makes no sense.
Fuck this guy, he better lose his job.
shorofsky 20th-May-2012 03:05 pm (UTC)
I know! That's my least favorite thing about so many fellow Christians. If you're going to claim to follow the msg of Jesus, you should probably understand that the way he did his business was an updated version of the fire and brimstone Old Testament peppered with some love and peace talk. Jesus never did call for the death of any homosexual person and he would most likely not have condoned anything of the sort, if you read the Gospels. This just comes down to people being assholes, I guess.
umi_mikazuki 19th-May-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
When you quote Leviticus as god’s law and say they are rules we must follow because they are what god or Jesus wants us to do, what you are really saying, as a Christian, is that Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was invalid. He died in vain because you believe we are still beholden to the old laws. That is what you, a self-professed good Christian, are saying to your god and his son, that their plan for your salvation wasn’t good enough for you.

I'm quite fond of this response.
amyura 20th-May-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
EXACTLY! Even Saint Paul, himself rather a homophobic misogynistic asshole, said as much.

Also, if you're quoting Leviticus as a rulebook for life, you'd damn well better be a fully practicing Orthodox Jew, because they're really the only community coming close to fulfilling all of those laws. I'm willing to bet this guy like bacon and shrimp and polyester just fine.
friedgold_x 19th-May-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
I am such a fan of social networking in general. Then sometimes I remember it just gives a platform for fucking idiots to spout their bullshit and it makes me sad.
zombieroadtrip 19th-May-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
I'm ready to enact a new policy on elected officials. A simple quiz, one question long:

"Do you believe your personal religious beliefs should impact public policy?"

Whoever answers 'yes' doesn't get to run, and has to sit in on a high school government class for a semester.
walkwithheroes 19th-May-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
Yup. I second that. I'm so angry with the way political figures always say they are Christian and then go on to try and push their religious beliefs on public policies.
cher_arlequin 19th-May-2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
You're not the only one who can cite Bible verses, Gipson. Ever hear of Matthew 22:21?
oudeteron 19th-May-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
I wish these fuckers would just get a different hobby already. Hearing this over and over and over and over (and over) has transcended every level of pathetic by now. Why be so fixated on a segment of the population you hate? Is that what gives ~meaning to your life or...?
redqueenmeg 19th-May-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
coraki 20th-May-2012 01:09 am (UTC)
saves*
aviv_b 19th-May-2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
JFC - it's a trifecta of fail from Hatebook today. I can see why their shares went for such a high price - cause if you want to reach the bigoted, neanderthal, douche-nozzle market, its right there waiting for your Creationist Museum, faith healing service, magic pieces of the cross, etc, advertisement.
spiffynamehere 20th-May-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
OH gods, I have been to the Creationist Museum.
maladaptive 19th-May-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
Thou shalt not murder. THE END.

G'lawd why is this so hard for some people.
sparkindarkness 20th-May-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
Ye gods, there's no end to these people. Ugh, I'm too tired for a coherent response.
ladypolitik 20th-May-2012 12:28 am (UTC)
1) Lot of openly homophobic assholes on fb catching headlines today, huh.

2) lol @ the phrase "homosexual marriage". Reckon that's supposed to be so much more semantically ~menacing~.

3) But really, way to go, Gipson, for the ironic endorsement of breaking the 6th Mosaic commandment.
redstar826 20th-May-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
this one is a duplicate (first posted here: http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9668601.html)
surealistic_des 20th-May-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
LJ ate my comment. Urgh.

Ironic for him to quote the Old Testament when, you're Christian.

And this posting this quote again. Jaime Raskin's comment.

"..when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible..."
redstar826 20th-May-2012 02:01 am (UTC)
I don't know, having been a part of a number of churches over the years, I never ran into one that didn't also teach from the Old Testament.

Edited at 2012-05-20 02:01 am (UTC)
sankaku_atama 20th-May-2012 03:12 am (UTC)
Nope, you're not. One of the classic misinterpretations is "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." The word 'witch' was a mistranslation from the Greek word for poisoner.

Language is a fluid, mutable thing, and I love the idiots who think that their translated version of an ancient text is pretty much verbatim to the original meanings, especially when turned into a language with as screwed up a method of syntax and grammar as English.
ceruleanst 20th-May-2012 01:50 am (UTC)
Never changes, huh? I was pretty sure that any translation that uses the phrase "has sexual relations" must be significantly younger than I am.
sesmo 20th-May-2012 05:56 am (UTC)
Heh. My version says "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind"

But I do wonder if Mr. Gipson has ever had sex with his wife during her menses, or 7 days thereafter, because that's also condemned at 20:18. And of course the kashrut rules are in the same chapter. I suspect Mr. Gipson has indulged in lobster, or bacon.
roseofjuly 20th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
Even if you did believe God's word above all others, God often sent His people to live with others who did not share their beliefs. He never implored them to try to make their law the law of the land - and in fact, with the exception of the relatively brief period that the Israelites had their own land, they almost always lived under laws that did not mesh with their religious beliefs. The Israelites/Jews still lived their lives pretty quietly and did what they had to do.

If you believe gay marriage is a sin - don't get gay married. Simple.

And if you want to be all Jesus about it - Jesus hung out with a lot of different kinds of people, and I don't recall him telling us to put anyone to death over it. Matter of fact, the only people he got really angry at were the moneylenders in the temple.
xdawnfirex 20th-May-2012 05:42 am (UTC)
Dear idiot: Leviticus also says that eating shellfish is an abomination. How did you enjoy the shrimp cocktail?
13chapters 20th-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
I always find the aspect of Christian theology that accepts Leviticus so unthinkingly kind of confusing. These "Old Testament" laws (that are supposed to be overridden by Jesus) are sctually Jewish laws. However, a lot of the laws (including all laws that require capital punishment) are out of use because there is no Temple. There are some movements of Judaism that are super homophobic, but even they would never agree with this guy.

I'm an atheist and I'm still kind of miffed that this dude is misusing my people's ridiculous, ancient laws to justify his bigotry.
eculeus 20th-May-2012 06:57 am (UTC)
"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." Voltaire

I'm surprised there aren't more assassinations these days. I wonder how this asshole would feel if the situation were reversed and a large religion's laws were misinterpreted to mean that he should be put to death?
masakochan 20th-May-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
Just bringing this over from tumblr:

"The laws in the Old Testament were set forth by god as the rules the Hebrews needed to follow in order to be righteous, to atone for the sin of Adam and Eve and to be able to get into Heaven. That is also why they were required to make sacrifices, because it was part of the appeasement for Original Sin.

According to Christian theology, when Jesus came from Heaven, it was for the express purpose of sacrificing himself on the cross so that our sins may be forgiven. His sacrifice was supposed to be the ultimate act that would free us from the former laws and regulations and allow us to enter Heaven by acting in his image. That is why he said “it is finished” when he died on the cross. That is why Christians don’t have to circumcise their sons (god’s covenant with Jacob), that is why they don’t have to perform animal sacrifice, or grow out their forelocks, or follow any of the other laws of Leviticus.

When you quote Leviticus as god’s law and say they are rules we must follow because they are what god or Jesus wants us to do, what you are really saying, as a Christian, is that Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was invalid. He died in vain because you believe we are still beholden to the old laws. That is what you, a self-professed good Christian, are saying to your god and his son, that their plan for your salvation wasn’t good enough for you."
a_klutz 24th-May-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
Does this statement not contradict Jesus' statements that we should obey the Scripture and commandments of God? I'm not a Christian but I'm assuming that interpretation of the OT depends on different denominations. Obviously, it is open to interpretation but this is an interesting perspective. Do you by any chance know which denomination the person who wrote this statement is from?
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