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‘Slutty Wednesday’: NY high-school students protest dress code

2:14 pm - 06/07/2012
Stuyvesant High School is considered one of New York City's top public high schools, but some of the students there think a recently imposed dress code is just dumb.

The New York Post reports that about 100 students decided to protest the code, which bans girls from exposing their shoulders, midriffs, lower backs, bras and underwear, by having a "Slutty Wednesday," during which they intentionally broke the conservative dress standards.

"We work our asses off here, and school is about learning. Clothing is not important," ninth-grader Lucy Greider told the Post. Greider says she's been brought into the office 10 times this year for violating the dress code, which was introduced last fall. "A lot of the classrooms don't have a/c's and when it is 80 degrees outside and it is really hot, it's perfectly OK to show a little skin."



A 2010 poll by the National Center for Education Statistics found that about 57 percent of public schools enforce some kind of dress code. In addition, 19 percent of public schools require school uniforms, a 12 percent increase over the previous decade.

Dress codes, including school uniforms, often drift in and out of the public debate. However, more restrictive dress codes are usually reserved for private school systems. In 1996, President Bill Clinton stirred up controversy when he had the Department of Education distribute manuals to all of the nation's 16,000 school districts on how they could legally enforce school uniform policies without violating the First Amendment.



source, with video.

edit: all right, mea culpa for not posting this article, which explains the really shitty sexism and sizeism that this policy enforces....which is why the students adopted the term "slutty wednesday" in the first place. i hope this will clarify things/chasten some of you.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 07:26 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I don't see any problem at all with showing shoulders with like a tank top or something. On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with a policy that says that underwear and bras shouldn't be visible, nor bare midriffs or lower backs. Granted, I think there has to be a bit of leeway between things being visible naturally when arms are raised, versus clothing designed to show these things off.

This really isn't that tough of a school policy unless there are rules I'm not aware of. I went to school in two different districts over my high school years, and one of them had rules similar to this and the other had rules even stricter that dictated hair color, shoelace color, shirt designs, etc., so I don't see why this is seen as strict.

The real problem is that there are classrooms without AC. I'd say that should really be the focus as there shouldn't be classes without AC. Plus, I'm feeling a little weird by students protesting and calling it "Slutty Wednesday", but I can't pinpoint why and it might just be me. IDK.
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
they can't do anything about the ac realistically, and not allowing bras to be down bans tank tops across the board in my experience!
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 07:35 pm (UTC)
We weren't allowed to wear spaghetti straps, but we could wear tank tops with thicker straps over an inch. I thought it a fair compromise. We weren't in trouble if our bra straps fell down, but we would be if we wore a top that allowed them to be visible naturally (i.e spaghetti straps and tube tops).

I could imagine these students and their parents could protest the school board or whoever makes the decisions to install ACs/have them serviced to get something done. Or, perhaps they could hold some sort of fundraiser to get people to help pay for them/donate window units. I don't think there is nothing that can be done. When our AC would break, school would shut down until it was fixed because having AC in a hot, humid southern state was important. Especially if students and faculty started to drop or become sluggish from the heat.
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
sorry, I meant shown and my phone said down. my bra straps show in all of my tank tops. I just get basic ones from old navy usually.

it's not as simple as having a fundraiser, it costs a lot of money to run ac over the long term. especially in old buildings that weren't built with good circulation and energy efficiency in mind. I went to a high school with no ac and I'd rather have had textbooks, an exterminator, and no fees than central air, personally. we really only needed it in may, june, and september.

ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 08:16 pm (UTC)
We need it for a larger portion of our school year, so having them is a big deal where I'm from. I remember my mom coming to pick me up from school when the AC would break, and a lot of other parents would do the same because it would get unbearable. I couldn't imagine not having AC or fans in the heat, especially when it can get to be over 100 degrees here without even accounting for humidity and heat index. Ick. :(
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
i can imagine!! i've been to the southern US in hot months and it really sucked

i took computer classes in high school because those rooms had window ACs. ;)
lone_concertina 7th-Jun-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
The difference between what you guys are talking about and the southern US in hot months is that we have central air everywhere here. The hottest part of your day is walking from your air conditioned car into a heavily air conditioned building. Even the gas stations keep it at a frigid 65° during the summer.
box_of_rocks 7th-Jun-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
None of my tanks show my bra. I just get wider straps, not spaghetti straps.
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
I get wider ones too but they show in the back usually
spiffynamehere 7th-Jun-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
Mine do.
schexyschteve 7th-Jun-2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
I agree with this. I'm in Michigan, and we had a pretty similar dress code at my public school. We could have bare shoulders, but straps on tank tops had to be at least 2 fingers wide (so no spaghetti straps). It's a pretty standard dress code, so I'm not really sure what they're protesting?

We didn't have a/c in my high school either. There weren't too many hot days in Michigan (not like in say, Texas, where I could see a/c in schools being necessary), so it would've cost more than it was really worth.
lexiloumarie 7th-Jun-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
No bra showing translates to no bra straps showing, which rules out tank tops even if they meet the however many inches the straps had to be for my schools dress code.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 07:39 pm (UTC)
Really? That IS incredibly strict. We just had to have tank tops that didn't allow the straps to show naturally, so we had to wear tank tops with thicker straps. There was no fuss if our bra straps fell down, we were just expected to put them back up.

Could you do it if you wore a strapless bra?
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
nobody wears strapless bras in humid no-ac schools, it would be so uncomfortable
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
I think all bras are pretty uncomfortable in humid schools with no AC.
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
for sure, but in the summer I wear thinner material or a sports bra or something. strapless bras that I've worn were meant to stick to me (they had this grippy plastic stuff that wasn't fun when I started to sweat).

anyway this is silly, visible bra straps don't hurt anyone...

roseofjuly 8th-Jun-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
True, but strapless bras are worse
lexiloumarie 7th-Jun-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
I did yes, but they aren't great for support and my friends who were D+ cups were SOL.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I know all about that. I'm an E cup, so I have to wear full on strapless corsets instead of just strapless bras. Now that is a pain. :(
roseofjuly 8th-Jun-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
I'm a DD and my strapless bra kinda looks like part of a 19th century corset. It works, but it is not comfortable. This is a new thing for me too because I used to be able to go braless, but now? :(
spiffynamehere 7th-Jun-2012 08:41 pm (UTC)
Not everyone can even wear a strapless bra, because they're so inefficient once you hit a certain bra size.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
I'm not totally unaware of that as an E cup myself. I was just trying to determine if it was the showing of bra straps that was the problem or the particular top. I wanted to see if you could still wear spaghetti straps if your bra straps weren't showing at all.
magedragonfire 7th-Jun-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
And they dig in like mad, too, when you try to wear 'em with a larger chest. Noooo thank you.
maynardsong 7th-Jun-2012 08:57 pm (UTC)
Yup. MTE.
tvisgood 7th-Jun-2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
These are my exact feelings.
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