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‘Slutty Wednesday’: NY high-school students protest dress code

2:14 pm - 06/07/2012
Stuyvesant High School is considered one of New York City's top public high schools, but some of the students there think a recently imposed dress code is just dumb.

The New York Post reports that about 100 students decided to protest the code, which bans girls from exposing their shoulders, midriffs, lower backs, bras and underwear, by having a "Slutty Wednesday," during which they intentionally broke the conservative dress standards.

"We work our asses off here, and school is about learning. Clothing is not important," ninth-grader Lucy Greider told the Post. Greider says she's been brought into the office 10 times this year for violating the dress code, which was introduced last fall. "A lot of the classrooms don't have a/c's and when it is 80 degrees outside and it is really hot, it's perfectly OK to show a little skin."



A 2010 poll by the National Center for Education Statistics found that about 57 percent of public schools enforce some kind of dress code. In addition, 19 percent of public schools require school uniforms, a 12 percent increase over the previous decade.

Dress codes, including school uniforms, often drift in and out of the public debate. However, more restrictive dress codes are usually reserved for private school systems. In 1996, President Bill Clinton stirred up controversy when he had the Department of Education distribute manuals to all of the nation's 16,000 school districts on how they could legally enforce school uniform policies without violating the First Amendment.



source, with video.

edit: all right, mea culpa for not posting this article, which explains the really shitty sexism and sizeism that this policy enforces....which is why the students adopted the term "slutty wednesday" in the first place. i hope this will clarify things/chasten some of you.
toxic_glory 7th-Jun-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
I feel like the problem with school dress codes is that they tend to focus on girls dressing in a way that doesn't ~distract the boys~. I remember on my first day of high school, my (male) principal spoke at our freshman assembly and made a few jokes about how high school boys were easily distracted and how it was the girls' responsibility to keep from distracting them more...which basically meant that we had to cover ourselves up.

Hm, come to think of it...most of the rules we had for the boys had a tendency to single out fashion that would be more common among black students.
victoriabloom 7th-Jun-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
Ugh, yes. And the assumption that's made is that if female students are wearing revealing clothing, it must be to look attract guys and look sexy. Not that there's anything wrong if somebody is trying to dress attractively, but jfc can we not assume everything girls do is for guys.
broadwaybabe11 7th-Jul-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
I know.. Which is dumb because all of the women in my life, including myself, only dress for themselves to feel their best. We don't dress for boys' attention, how baffling.
effervescent 7th-Jun-2012 08:16 pm (UTC)
Yes, this. The onus is always on girls, it seems. LIke, even though people protest about it being ~sensible~ on both sides, there's always a whiff of 'girls, seeing your skin makes boys think about sex!'
moonshaz 7th-Jun-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
Like teenaged boys need any help to do that! *snickersnort*
paranoidgrl 7th-Jun-2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
That was my issue- it reads that girls are prohibited from wearing. Can boys show their midriffs and shoulders? If there's going to be a dress code it should be across the board for all students.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
I would really hope the boys couldn't show their underwear because, ugh, that is a trend that needed to stop, like, forever ago.

I wonder if they have a copy of their dress code online that we could peruse. Hm.
cpip 7th-Jun-2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
If this really is it, then there's precious little to peruse. I notice a lack of some things which I remember from when I went to a NYC Board of Ed school (there's no hat restriction mentioned here, for instance).

Also, hell, they're letting the kids out for lunch now? Craziness. Though maybe Stuy always allowed it. I went to another NYC school and we weren't officially allowed to leave the school for lunch.
ohloverx 7th-Jun-2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
It would seem to include male students, as well, since there are no gender specific rules. Though, the wording from the article is slightly different in that it does mention girls specifically. I wonder which is right.

Was there a reason you weren't allowed to leave for lunch? My first high school didn't allow for it, but my second high school allowed for juniors and seniors to leave with a school issued lunch pass card that the parents signed off on at the beginning of the year.
victoriabloom 7th-Jun-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
You weren't allowed to leave high school during lunch? That seems so strange to me, all the high schools around here allow it. Hmm.
redstar826 7th-Jun-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
I think this is one of those things that varies depending on the area. Closed campuses are the norm around here. I went to school in the late 90s, and went to the one high school in my area that let students leave for lunch. They stopped it a year or two after I graduated because either students would come back late or depending on what classes they had in the afternoon they would just leave at lunch and not come back (to be honest, I used the open campus as an excuse to skip in the afternoon a lot).
beemo 7th-Jun-2012 08:46 pm (UTC)
same. our cafeteria didn't seat a lot of people and the only thing people bought there was poutine...
curseangel 7th-Jun-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
My school never let anyone leave for lunch, but that's because we were in an incredibly rural area -- my school was probably something like 20-30 minutes from the nearest fast food place, maybe a little more, by car.
thesilverymoon 7th-Jun-2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
I know that in my school the campus was closed until my senior year, when the policy was changed to allow students with a certain GPA or higher to go off campus for lunch. I loved the policy since all of my friends and I qualified, but I know it pissed off a ton of students. I think they might have changed the policy to allow everyone to go off campus now, but then again it was never strictly enforced anyway. We didn't even have a dress code, everything just operated on the honor system.
babysinclair 8th-Jun-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
our lunch was spread over 4 periods in 22 min blocks because there were too many kids. They had the wawa next door call when students showed up there to cut.
roseofjuly 8th-Jun-2012 01:19 am (UTC)
A lot of NYC high schools used to allow it - my parents went to NYC high schools (albeit in the 1970s) and they left for lunch.
deathchibi 8th-Jun-2012 08:55 am (UTC)
I dunno. I never got that trend. If my pants bag down that low, I have to shuffle along for fear I'm going to lose them entirely and fall flat on my face.

Just doesn't seem like that much fun.
anolinde 7th-Jun-2012 09:38 pm (UTC)
My school has this Halloween tradition where the seniors can perform skits. Usually they're just silly dancing, w/e. But every single year, the guys are allowed to dance as "sluttily"/inappropriately as they want, whereas any girl group that does similar moves is "gonged" (i.e. they shut off the music and their performance is over). It's such a ridiculous double-standard.

And smh at the whole "boys will be distracted boys!" argument.
thecityofdis 8th-Jun-2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
In my high school guys were not allowed to show their shoulders (things like muscle shirts weren't allowed... shush, I went to high school back when muscle shirts were popular)

but this rule was almost never enforced and I broke it all the time. Girls who broke dress code, on the other hand, always got sent home to change.
lone_concertina 7th-Jun-2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
Exactly. My school had a "no pajama or yoga pants" rule for female students but nothing like that for male students. I find basketball shorts or jerseys that won't stay up a lot more distracting than some girl's unicorn pajama pants.
meow_tan 8th-Jun-2012 04:09 am (UTC)
Boy do I have a story for you.
I dress up in alternative style a lot. And one day I wore all black, I had an off the shoulder baggy black sweater, a black pleather mini skirt I have worn to school previously, and thigh high lace stockings.

In the library, the older security guard comes in and takes me out and escorts me to the assistant principals office. The dude then says that my skirt is too short and "with all these boys around you'd never know". He then insisted that the dress code demands all skirts and shorts to be knee length- despite the dress code actually saying that skirts and shorts have to reach my mid thigh. Which it did,

He then made me use MY CELL PHONE to call my mom so he can talk to her about my indecent attire. My mom had just woken up from a nap and said "you know, she just turned 17, and she can drop out at any time she wants if this is such a big issue"

Another time I got Introuble for wearing shorts with black solid thigh highs. I wore the shorts this week without the thigh highs and didn't get Introuble. Ugh.
confectionqueen 8th-Jun-2012 12:46 pm (UTC)
At our high school, they really flat out said it was to keep the boys from being distracted.

The one benefit was it was a casual enough school, so the dress code was rarely enforced.

Boys dress code was to show up wearing clothes.
broadwaybabe11 7th-Jul-2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
*sighs* The males are just going to start masterbating in the middle of class if a girl wears a skirt...
I seriously don't even get it.
wrestlingdog 8th-Jun-2012 01:20 pm (UTC)
Precisely. It's fascinating how these are supposed to be "universal" student rules, but disproportionately affect students based on their race or gender.
broadwaybabe11 7th-Jul-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
I had male teachers like that, too. So ignorant. Boys need to be taught how to be decent people. It's unbelievable.
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