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Conservative Teen Radio Show Pulled

2:08 pm - 06/10/2012
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The 14-year-old West Virginia-based radio host who declared on a recent show that President Obama "is making kids gay" has been deemed "offensive," and taken off the air, by a second internet media outlet.

On Friday, Spreaker, a free audio platform that hosts radio shows, pulled the Caiden Cowger Program, replacing the page with a note that now reads "Spreaker has deleted this show due to offensive contents."


Cowger hosts a twice-weekly show. Last month, he declared on a show that being homosexual was a "perverted belief, it's immoral and not natural." As the Huffington Post previously noted, Cowger mentioned that he was previously friends with some kids who later came out of the closet. "They were not homosexuals [then]...they just decided all of a sudden, 'I think I'm going to be gay,'" Then he concluded, "I'm going to tell you this, guys: President Obama...Vice President Biden...is making kids gay!"

According to website Zimbio, Youtube deemed the video, titled, "Obama is making kids gay" hate speech and removed it from the site. But on Cowger's website, he claimed his YouTube account was hacked and then closed and Cowger has since launched a new YouTube channel.

Rhonda Mangus, the mother of bullied gay teen Michael Mangus, led the charge to remove Cowger's program from Spreaker. Under the Terms of Service on Spreaker's website, the site says user submissions to the site must not be "unlawful, defamatory, libellous, slanderous, threatening, pornographic, obscene, vulgar, harassing, harmful, hateful, abusive, racially or ethnically offensive or is otherwise inappropriate."


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Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/08/caiden-cowger-program-pulled-spreaker_n_1582108.html
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 02:52 pm (UTC)
Ah, I don't *exactly* agree. At 14, kids don't truly understand what they're saying. Not to the depth and breath that an adult, whom might say the same things, does.
darth_eldritch 10th-Jun-2012 02:54 pm (UTC)
A fourteen year old knows very well when they are bullying. Being in broadcasting means he is aware of current events, what bullying is and the epidemic of LGBT teen suicide. This is not a case of someone who has been sheltered. He knows he is being hurtful

Edited at 2012-06-10 02:57 pm (UTC)
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
If he's (or he was) hosting this show, it probably wasn't because he was born with the interest. It's more likely that he's been fed a diet of BS and lies. If you're raised in hate, then you'll hate but you won't know what/why you're hating.

And being a public speaker doesn't mean he is aware of current events. The face that he can come to the conclusion (Obama makes kids gay) screams this from the ceiling. That's an incredibly unaware viewpoint that screams how sheltered he is.

I'm not giving him a pass and this is coming from someone who was greatly picked on for being one of the only non-Mormon's at my school. Years later I meet them and they apologize. They were just acting like their parents taught them to act. It doesn't give them a pass but that's life.
darth_eldritch 10th-Jun-2012 03:29 pm (UTC)
I was raised by dyed in the wool racists. I knew it was wrong at a young age because of the examples I saw at school. I started my conscience decision to reject those teachings about this age, and at that point I did at least know there are some things you don't say.

He knows better than that. You don't go into broadcasting without listening to the news and other broadcasts.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 03:40 pm (UTC)
I started my conscience decision to reject those teachings about this age, and at that point I did at least know there are some things you don't say.

People like you are rare. You can't expect this out of almost anyone else. If this was even remotely normal, we wouldn't've had slavery, people wouldn't be dying of hunger, and all the worlds ills.

You don't go into broadcasting without listening to the news and other broadcasts.

Really? Cause sometimes I wonder about faux and rush and all the rest of that pack.
xdawnfirex 11th-Jun-2012 03:24 am (UTC)
^ This. My father was the racist-est racist who ever racist-ed. And yet in elementary school I knew enough to know that you didn't say things like that in public where people who might be affected by it could hear you.
chimbleysweep 10th-Jun-2012 03:07 pm (UTC)
He's fourteen, not seven.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Fourteen year olds are known for their level headedness in thinking out all their words.
illusivevenstar 10th-Jun-2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
age has nothing to do with level headedness, tbh. he's old enough to understand the difference between right and wrong and to be told he is wrong.
lafinjack 11th-Jun-2012 04:08 am (UTC)
Physically, sure; mentally, though...
masakochan 10th-Jun-2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
At 14, kids don't truly understand what they're saying.

...At 14- most kids are about to enter High School. I'm pretty sure they have, at the the least, a general understanding.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 03:23 pm (UTC)
I never said he didn't have a "general understanding". I said he doesn't have the understanding that comes from being a mature adult who's lived a while (eg, having kids, a job, family, responsibilities, etc.)
masakochan 10th-Jun-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
Well, considering (if I'm remembering my Developmental Psych. notes right) that a person's brain isn't fully matured till 25- that part's understandable.

But even then, even if he's just parroting an older person's beliefs- it's still a flimsy excuse, and he needs to be told why his words can be extremely damaging to some people.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
But even then, even if he's just parroting an older person's beliefs- it's still a flimsy excuse, and he needs to be told why his words can be extremely damaging to some people.

I never said he shouldn't. I just said that he wasn't an adult and didn't have an adults level of "maturity". Saying that doesn't give him a pass or write him off. It just means he isn't an adult. That's all.
moonbrightnites 10th-Jun-2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
I said a lot of stupid shit at 14 and I always knew *exactly* what I was saying and *precisely* the reaction it was going to get. He's bullying, and he damn well knows it.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 03:24 pm (UTC)
And would you say those same things now to those kids you bullied if you could somehow mentally jump your adult mind back into your teenage body?
moonbrightnites 10th-Jun-2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
I wasn't a bully. The stupid shit I said was to my parents, taking the opposite position to all of their beliefs in order to get a reaction. I knew exactly what that reaction would be, too.

In my experience, teen bullies grow up to be adult bullies. The ones who don't are the ones who are called on theie BS and forced to reassess.

agatharuncible 10th-Jun-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
He might not know he's bullying if adults in his life actually encourage him or at least have the same opinions, which is sad but it happens. But imo that's why he needs people who *don't* think that his behaviour is ok to call him on his shit. At 14 he might not be able to completely cut himself off from what he's being brought up to think (a lot of people don't and they're older) but they're old enough to reflect on their actions once they're confronted about them.
teacoat 10th-Jun-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
But what about all of the 14-year-olds that don't spew hate speech? What about all the 50-year-olds that do?

Trying to say that he "doesn't truly understand" is dismissive and derailing from the fact that what he is saying is very real and very harmful.
violetrose 10th-Jun-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
The same excuses are also pulled out when older bigots spew their hateful crap, except with them it's usually because it was 'acceptable' to have those views in their generation, so they can't possibly learn that's it's wrong now!

Ignoring, of course, all the non-bigoted older people that exist.
lizzy_someone 10th-Jun-2012 10:18 pm (UTC)
Right? It's either "They're too young, they don't understand what they're doing!" or "They're so old, it was totally acceptable when they were growing up and they can't understand that it's not acceptable now!" It's like there is no perfect Goldilocks age at which someone can actually be held morally accountable for spouting disgusting bigotry.
furrygreen 10th-Jun-2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
Trying to say that he "doesn't truly understand" is dismissive and derailing from the fact that what he is saying is very real and very harmful.

No, it isn't. If this were true, there would be no need for therapists or LCSW's or medication or therapy, etc. You need to know and understand where a person is coming from before you can make that person change their ways.
illusivevenstar 10th-Jun-2012 07:01 pm (UTC)
yeah, you're being dismissive. you're being more sympathetic to bigots as opposed to the people they are actively oppressing.
augustcoyote 10th-Jun-2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
Fourteen year olds aren't as dumb as you seem to think they are. They know what they're saying, they know that words can have negative impact on people. There are fourteen year old kids who are committing suicide because of jerks like him, so "teenagers don't understand the meaning of words!!!" is BS.

(Also, all kids understand the concept of bullying. )
nonnycat 11th-Jun-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
Look, when I was that age, I believed some pretty fucked up things about people not like me because of how I was raised. I also knew that it was super fucked up to air those beliefs in public where somebody who was LGBT or whatnot could hear them and be hurt by them. This is not fucking rocket science here.
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