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France to legalise gay marriage in 2013

6:04 pm - 06/29/2012

France's new Socialist government will pass a law legalising gay marriage and granting gay couples the same rights as any married couple in 2013, the country's junior minister for family said Friday.


REUTERS - France’s new Socialist government is to legalise same-sex marriage next year, a junior minister said on Friday, reflecting a shift in public attitudes in the majority Catholic nation.

President Francois Hollande, who took office last month, had pledged to legalise gay marriage and adoption during his election campaign but had given no timeframe.

Since Hollande’s Socialists won an absolute majority in parliamentary elections two weeks ago, the conservative UMP party, which had opposed the measure under former president Nicolas Sarkozy, can do little to stop it.

"Within a year, people of the same sex will be able to marry and adopt children together," Dominique Bertinotti, junior minister for families, told the daily Le Parisien. "They will have the same rights and duties as any married couple."




A law granting full marriage status to gay couples would bring France, which currently provides only for same-sex civil unions, into line with fellow EU members Denmark, Portugal, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands and Sweden.

It would also mark a profound change in French society, where more than two-thirds of people still describe themselves as Roman Catholic, according to a 2010 survey by pollster Ifop.

However, fewer and fewer of them adhere to strict Roman Catholic teachings on sexual issues or back the Vatican’s condemnation of homosexuality. Church attendance has collapsed.

As recently as 2006, surveys indicated that most French were opposed to changing the definition of marriage, but now more than 60 percent support the idea, the pollster BVA said. A majority also favour allowing gay couples to adopt children.

Nevertheless, gay rights advocates say homosexuality remains taboo in many areas of public life. Media tend to use euphemisms such as "long-term bachelor" to hint that someone is gay.

"Today, it’s still very difficult to put a name on things, as if saying in public that someone was homosexual was to violate a taboo, " a group of gay professionals wrote in an opinion piece in the newspaper Le Monde on Friday, the eve of a Gay Pride march in Paris.

A gay marriage law would boost Hollande’s credentials as an agent of social change in the tradition of late Socialist president Francois Mitterrand, who appointed France’s first female prime minister and scrapped the death penalty.

Hollande fathered four children out of wedlock with his former partner, fellow Socialist Segolene Royal.

A debate on gay rights might also draw some attention away from the economic woes weighing on his popularity.

Still, there is certain to be opposition from conservatives and practising Catholics.

"We are convinced that young people’s development requires the presence of a mother and a father," said Thierry Vidor, head of the Familles de France umbrella group, which represents some 70,000 families, and campaigns for traditional family rights.

"We will take action to try to show that this measure is ultimately dangerous for society."



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polietics Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 12:49 pm (UTC)
No, fuck tories. The entire party is riddled with homophobia and saying "oh, they're not *all* bad" is just a way of keeping them in power. Fuck Labour too.

Tories have a choice to whip their MPs so they have to vote for equality. They won't because they say it's a ~moral issue~ when it's not - it's an equalities issue. They also have the ability to kick any homophobes out of the party for voting against the government - again, they won't do that. Plus, House of Lords reform which is entirely Tory controlled, had the chance to boot the completely unelected and even unselected Church of England bishops from the House of Lords and - guess what? They're not going to.

You say Cameron is progressive. Then why the hell does he want to cut money that's needed for LGBT+ care? Like housing benefit for the under 25s - he wants to completely remove that. I work with homeless youth and the amount that have had to leave their homes because of homophobic parents is staggering. If Cameron was progressive, why the hell didn't he just call the damn vote on equal marriage, rather than requiring this shitty consultation that has homophobic views treated entirely the same as non homophobic ones?

My girlfriend has a conservative MP who sent her an email saying "gays don't deserve marriage; it's wrong to be gay". Any party that still lets people like that in their conferences deserves all the scorn and hatred that I can throw at them. Fuck Tories.
mephisto5 Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
Preach it.

Also, *hugs*.
strandedinaber Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
I agree 100%.

Also it's not even equal marriage. It's equal civil marriage and if one more person tells me BUT CIVIL PARTNERSHIPS ARE JUST THE SAME...

I can't even believe that a MP had the gall to put that in an email. Way to throw off the "nasty party" label. Do you mind me asking who it was?
polietics Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
He didn't specifically say "gay is wrong" but he said "I'm a strongly religious person and..." *blah blah blah homophobic drivel get off my land*. It was pretty fucking clear.

I don't think I can say who it was but the majority of Tory MPs would respond like that. http://www.c4em.org.uk/support-for-equal-marriage/ - a beautiful page logging every MP and their response to constituents emails.
strandedinaber Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 07:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you for this!

Just realised my MP hasn't anything up there yet and emailed him to ask. He's Labour, but there are still too many 'no' votes in their camp for my liking.
polietics Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 07:37 pm (UTC)
Labour are remarkably homophobic (Gordon Brown himself refused to start work on full marriage during his parliament because ~marriage was a matter for the church~) and, as much as they crow about it now, they did have a ridiculously long time in power to make these changes and provide us with equality. Lots of religious nuts in Labour.
strandedinaber Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 07:41 pm (UTC)
Oh agreed. Then again my family is religious so I have no problem with faith itself, just when people use it as an excuse to infringe on the rights of others or discriminate. Which so many so often do...

Fingers crossed he comes back with a positive response!
rebness Re: Not a Tory, not at all30th-Jun-2012 05:29 pm (UTC)
This.
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