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Deaf Community Rallies Against Dirty Signs With Kristin

10:10 pm - 06/29/2012
When it comes to Dirty Signs with Kristin, something is clearly being lost in translation.



As reported earlier this week by the Daily Dot, Kristin Henson’s video series transforms toilet humor and pop culture phrases into American Sign Language (ASL) for a YouTube audience. It’s earned the 26-year-old Philadelphia resident a small dose of Internet fame: taping a handful of segments for Comedy Central’s Tosh.O, accumulating more than 1.5 million views, and landing a book deal.

That success, however, has come with a steep price. Critics claim that her videos are offensive and derogatory, and are alienating her from the Deaf community. In the past two days, a petition for St. Martin’s Press to halt the publication of Henson’s Super Smutty Sign Language Book has received more than 1,300 digital signatures.

The consensus seems to be that Henson’s signing is “woefully inaccurate, poorly performed, and completely misguiding to those who may be seeking to learn more about American Sign Language,” as Andrea K. Smith, a sign language instructor, wrote to the Daily Dot.

For example, a Twitter user claimed that one video actually translated to “Money Buy want-want-want clouds over horizon.” Dave Coyne, a nationally certified interpreter by the Registry of Interpreters for the Deaf (RID) and doctoral student at the University of Cincinnati, noted that in Daily Dot’s top 10 list he found errors ranging from “be versus bitch” and “which (palm orientation)” to the confusion of the “pronouns my and mine.”

“The above examples include errors from the basic building blocks of sign language,” Coyne wrote.

“[I]t's four parameters: handshape, non-manual markers, palm orientation, and location. At times she is not only signing a parameter different than accepted variations, but she is not understandable.”

It’s worth noting that Henson doesn’t claim to be an expert in sign language. To her credit, she’s posted revisions to some of her videos on YouTube and has on multiple occasions responded to individual comments about her signing on the video-sharing site.

“I started making these videos to learn how to sign better, and if you watch them chronologically, I believe I've improved a lot,” Henson posted recently in response to the public outcry. (She declined to respond to the Daily Dot’s follow-up questions.)

“My intention is not to make a joke out of ASL, but to learn about it, and get others interested in the process. The dirty words are the first things anyone learns in a new language, which is why I started with these."

And let’s face it; it’s not like there’s really a precise way to say “Skullfuck the shit out of me,” one of 90 phrases tackled thus far in Dirty Signs with Kristin.

“There's not a specific sign for the word ‘skullfuck,’ so you kind of have to explain the concept of skullfucking,” Henson previously told us. “The fact that I get to figure out how best to sign this concept as part of what I do just really boggles my mind still.”

That sort of phrase, however, captures the essence of the other complaints about Dirty Signs with Kristin. While Henson claimed “anything that's racist or homophobic is off-limits,” many in the Deaf community are appalled at the phrases—some of which are based on fan suggestions—she attempts to sign, and worse, at the prospect of her profiting from them through potential book sales and merchandise.

Reader Norma Morán labeled the series “hipster racism.”

“[B]y her 'teaching' us how to 'be'/ sign 'gangsta' and 'bitch, please,' I see a simultaneous exotification and minimization of sign language, appropriated and packaged for [white, patriarchal] entertainment value,” commented reader Elena M. Ruiz. “I don't think it is okay to reduce any language to 'dirty words.'”

Henson’s signing of “Damn it feels good to be a gangsta” didn’t seem much different, though, than hearing the same Geto Boys song appropriated in Office Space, or for that matter, the Gregory Brothers’ AutoTuning of Antoine Dodson for the “Bed Intruder Song”—a disturbing news report playfully skewered into unintentional pop song and viral video.

That doesn’t make it right.

What makes this scenario different is the prevalent concern that Henson’s tutorials might cause serious damage to the hearing impaired in real life.

“The Deaf community has a long way to go to overcome daily struggles in the United States,” Coyne wrote. “Further, how would you feel if you lived in a marginalized community and when outsiders approach you - they say offensive language. This causes alarm and should be viewed as 'bad taste.'”

Jean Sagendorph, a literary agent at Query Mansion Street, asked Coyne to wait to see the final product before passing judgment.

“As I'm sure you are aware sign language is rapidly evolving particularly within the urban and youth landscape,” she wrote. “What works in one region doesn't necessarily work in another. [I]t's just another layer that makes our world so colorful. …”

“Communication is a wonderful thing.”

Indeed, Henson’s controversial series has opened up an opportunity to discuss sensitive issues and stereotypes facing the Deaf community.

Unfortunately, due to her lack of involvement at the moment, it appears to be a one-way discussion.


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I know there are ~talk dirty books~ out there but at least they're accurate and written by native speakers and certified translators. This girl is not either one of those so she's exploiting the deaf community. From the videos I watched, all of the "dirty signs" in this girl's videos is just a bunch of hand gibberish.

Here's a link that has some comments by other deaf people's opinions on this.


If you want to sign the petition, it's here.
randomtasks 30th-Jun-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
edited to add in the petition and a new link.
greenwick 30th-Jun-2012 02:43 am (UTC)
As someone who is interested in language, and is learning two at the moment, I agree it is important to practice. But it seems like she's gone way beyond just putting up videos online for her own personal edification. And swearing aside, it strikes me as squicky that she will potentially be making money off a book about sign language which is inaccurate, yet is claiming that she's doing this because she cares about sign language. That's nonsense.
stereosymbiosis 30th-Jun-2012 02:48 am (UTC)
i found about her video channel a few months ago (i'm an ASL student and i was looking for video practice) and i KNEW she was going to get backlash. her entire video channel just makes me so uncomfortable.
tinylegacies 30th-Jun-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
I know a lot of D/deaf people and interpreters and they are all pissed about this. I can't say I blame them. She's disgusting and I can't believe she's profiting off of her exploitation, racism, and sexism.
romp 30th-Jun-2012 05:26 am (UTC)
How did she think this was a good idea? And how does posting a video make her better at signing? I could string together broken Spanish but that wouldn't improve my skill.
teacoat 30th-Jun-2012 06:36 am (UTC)
Actually, making YouTube videos is a really good way to improve your signing. Just recording yourself in general is really helpful, because it allows you to really see how your signs look, if you're signing too fast, too slow, not clear enough... And then posting them in public helps you get feedback on what you're doing wrong, particularly if you're self-studying or don't really have anyone who's fluent. One video isn't going to do much, but if you do it every few days for a year or two, I think you'll find you improve a lot.
romp 30th-Jun-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
I could see recording yourself but I guess I didn't think anything positive would come from YouTube comments. :)
roseofjuly 2nd-Jul-2012 12:26 am (UTC)
I've seen aspiring ballerinas put up YouTube videos of their classes or practice routines and get helpful comments from other ballet dancers on YouTube, so I guess I could see it working this way. Between all of the snide comments, that is.
interrobamf 30th-Jun-2012 05:35 am (UTC)
Hearing people are already annoyingly obsessed with dirty signs, so I'm not surprised one of them has decided to appropriate only the "interesting" parts of our language for her crap.
teacoat 30th-Jun-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
I have found that a lot of deaf people love it when hearing people are studying and using their language, and (unlike some language communities) they're not contemptuous or condescending about it at all. So if the Deaf community is saying "no, stop it," you should prooooooooobably take heed of that. Even aside from the fact that, uhh, it's their language and their culture.

I would have a lot less of problem with this if she wasn't trying to write a book, though. Or if she was writing a book about her experience learning the language, as opposed to trying to teach other people. Especially considering it's really hard to learn signs out of book, so people that buy it are just going to be doing even crappier versions of what sound like are already pretty crappy signs.
abee 30th-Jun-2012 10:01 am (UTC)
Oh, this is new? Please. I got that time from hearing people who just wanted to know the naughty words and not my language since my childhood. WAY once too often.

Signed.
crysania4 30th-Jun-2012 11:25 am (UTC)
Definitely not new. Not for any language. I remember classes when I was younger in French and the first thing anyone wanted to know was the naughty words. And I remember learning a bit of ASL when I was a kid and even then, with 8 year olds, they wanted to know the naughty bits.
alicedear 1st-Jul-2012 04:36 am (UTC)
I can see how she thought this would be a good idea. But when the people who actually speak the language as part of their daily lives tell you something, it's time to pay attention.
quicksilvermad 1st-Jul-2012 04:10 pm (UTC)
I watched a couple of her videos to try and get an idea of the grammar she was using. Even with just my two years of high school ASL and remembering conversations with my deaf friend and his translators in my undergrad years, I can see that she's not signing correctly. Beyond that, I just found myself disgusted with her. I'm not above learning swear words in other languages (even my ASL teacher taught us a couple), but to make up stuff like this and put it on the Internet as a "teaching tool" for hearing people... Just... Ew.
roseofjuly 2nd-Jul-2012 12:24 am (UTC)
The fact that I get to figure out how best to sign this concept as part of what I do just really boggles my mind still.”

It should, but not in a good way. You're not a native speaker or a translator; you don't even have native fluency. By your own admission, you're still learning the language, so why do you think YOU should get to be the one to figure out how to sign dirty slang (or anything, really)? That's like me deciding that since I've taken Japanese 101 I'm going to start making up dirty phrases in the language.

Edited at 2012-07-02 12:24 am (UTC)
jaded110 25th-Aug-2012 05:23 am (UTC)
I'm just glad my dad, aunt and their friends can read lips. I know a few signs but I'm not very good with ASL.
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