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Navy SEALS taking target practice at hijabi Muslim women

7:09 pm - 06/30/2012
Omid Safi | Jun 29, 2012

"Here is a very curious story from a paper in Virginia Beach:

The story talks about the difficult conditions under which the Navy special warfare community (Navy SEALs) have to train, including simulated conditions in which they go through rooms that are designed to resemble “a mosque, bank, post office, market and residential compound. In one section, nine chairs painted in primary hues sit behind desks in an elementary school classroom.”

The story doesn’t mention it, but something caught my eye: the image that they are using for target practice is unmistakably that of a Muslim woman wearing hijab, with what looks like Qur’anic inscriptions behind her on the wall.

These houses are called “kill houses.”


The person who designed these so-called “kill houses” touts their high technology: Larry Pacifico, “who manages the complex, said instructors will control each scenario using an iPad to adjust the lighting and movement of the targets. Cameras will record the action, so SEALs will find out where the bullets they fired came to rest, he said, down to specific bones and organs.”

Apparently the Navy has enough concern about technology to want to know which bones and which organs the Navy SEALs would be hitting, but not enough concern to know that they are taking target practice shooting at Muslim women.

Yeah, we are not at war with Islam, they keep telling us.
We just train our most skilled soldiers to kill Muslim women.

God have mercy on us.

It’s not so much that this looks bad.
This is bad. It’s rotten to the core.

Can the folks in charge at the NAVY not see how this contributes to the dehumanizing of Muslims, not just Muslim women, not just Muslim civilians, but all Muslims?


Link to the source

http://www.religionnews.com/blogs/omid-safi/navy-seals-taking-target-practice-at-hijabi-muslim-women <-- Secondary link in-case the above one has any html fail going on.

OP:


My inner-Psychology geek is spitting flames, and wanting to rage about the racist and bigot'ed types of mental techniques (like this one) that are being used to de-humanize the 'enemy'.
bellichka 1st-Jul-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
IMHO this article's title (and its content) is sensationalizing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the point of the training is to place the SEALs in situations and environments as close to the real ones as possible. When you're engaged in a war in Afghanistan, that unfortunately includes Muslim women. Keep in mind also that organizations such as al-Qaeda use both women and children as shields and to carry out attacks, knowing that soldiers' instincts are to not shoot women and children. It happened in Vietnam, happened in Iraq, and is happening in Afghanistan. I see no problem with training the SEALs in duplicated settings to best prepare them for the challenges they may face in combat.
wonderpup 1st-Jul-2012 01:15 am (UTC)
MTE
jasonbeast 1st-Jul-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
Yeah, I should have ready your comment first. Basically said the same thing.
ms_maree 1st-Jul-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
Well, Vietnam is a brilliant example of what the military should do. In fact, none of this training soldiers to kill women on the ground, pfff. Such a waste of time and money. Just napalm the entire town from the air. That way you're sure to get all those terrorists.

Or just use drones.
girly123 1st-Jul-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
Please

Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
ms_maree 1st-Jul-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
I was being sarcastic. I'm a pacifist just loling at the absurdity of Vietnam being raised as an example.

But I follow the cold logic of the hawkes.

This is why drones are deployed every four days. It does save money and the civilian collatoral is worth not putting american soldiers lives on the line. It also gets around that messy 'official war' thing. If you don't technically put boots on the ground of another sovereign nation, you're not at war. Brilliant.
jenny_jenkins 1st-Jul-2012 04:29 am (UTC)
+1
masakochan 1st-Jul-2012 06:15 am (UTC)
Well, Vietnam is a brilliant example of what the military should do. In fact, none of this training soldiers to kill women on the ground, pfff. Such a waste of time and money. Just napalm the entire town from the air. That way you're sure to get all those terrorists.

All this just makes me think of is that one scene from Apocalypse Now where the one guy is going "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning."

Or just use drones.

Honestly, I'm waiting for the moment someone has found a way to hack them. Then it'll be like we have our very own potential RL version of the Toclafane from Doctor Who.
very_veggie 2nd-Jul-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
Actually, I believe someone has figured out how to hack drones. I saw a story on BBC online (I think) that University of Texas-Austin hackers figured out how to do it as part of a Department for Homeland Security contest.
violetrose 1st-Jul-2012 05:05 am (UTC)
Vietnam and Iraq, but Vietnam in particular, are not exactly good examples of anything but how not to do things during a war.
bellichka 1st-Jul-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
Yeah, definitely. My reference to Vietnam was obviously concerning their use of children to carry out attacks, but both sides are definitely examples, as you said, of How Not To Do Things During A War.
mirhanda 1st-Jul-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this.
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