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ETA: Trigger warnings for sexism and harassment and violence against women in the links in the post.

I can’t even bring myself to embed it here: some trogolodytes have created a game that lets players beat up Anita Sarkeesian, the feminist video blogger who’s been subject to an unremitting campaign of harassment since she created a Kickstarter to support a project to explore tropes of female characters in video games. I’vesaid it before and I’ll say it again: anyone who thinks that feminists who push back hard against online harassment are being oversensitive needs to understand that we’re all trying to keep ourselves from becoming Anita Sarkeesians. No matter how strong you are, and no matter how much support you have, this kind of concentrated campaign of harassment affects the targets of it. And the goal of these campaigns is to terrorize people into silence. It’s not disagreement. It’s not creative trolling. It’s deployment of a weapon.

And even though it’s frightening, ugly stuff, the campaign waged against Sarkeesian illustrates the fundamental cowardice and weakness of the people attacking her. If you so lack confidence in your ideas, if you’re so uncomfortable defending your appreciation for problematic things (which, by the way, is tricky but not that tricky) that you can’t even put your hands over your ears and sing loudly and ignore them, that you have to actually go out and try to prevent anyone from from saying anything that could make you remotely uneasy, you are a coward. That’s cold comfort to folks like Sarkeesian who have to go through this now. But it’s why, long-term, angry, petty sexists are going to lose, and why it’s important to throw up bulwarks against trolls who try to venture out of their holes and take over mainstream conversations. These ideas don’t stand-up to discussion and debate. And sexist trolls can’t shut down all of those debates, no matter how hard they try.



Source

...Have to love how far some guys will go to try to silence women. Seriously. And there are still plenty of people who say this doesn't happen at all. :/
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darth_eldritch 7th-Jul-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
Just... no words.

I'm just gonna think of those punks each time I battle something in my game now...
pretty_angel 7th-Jul-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
What's astonishing me is the effort these guys are going through just to discredit and silence her. They care so much about this issue, it's mind blowing! I kinda wish I had that much free time on my hands...
ook 7th-Jul-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
That's just the way neckbeards are. They have nothing better to do.
vanillakokakola 7th-Jul-2012 01:54 am (UTC)
this double-sucks because i LOVE anita
sakuraberries 7th-Jul-2012 01:55 am (UTC)
I clicked the first link - I wasn't aware of just how serious the hate against Anita had become. My God, this is disgusting.
vanillakokakola 7th-Jul-2012 01:59 am (UTC)
HOLY SHIT. i hadn't clicked it because i figured it would just redirect to the game, but... omg.
fishphile 7th-Jul-2012 02:01 am (UTC)
Don't read the comments on that first link. I'm not even bothering with the second one.
darth_eldritch 7th-Jul-2012 02:05 am (UTC)
That first comment is horrible. Ugh, so much hate.
windsong_moon 7th-Jul-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
Keep on proving her correct, fuckers. This is so terrifying and disgusting; I really hope she's handling this all alright. I can't even click.
nikoel 7th-Jul-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Right? They're like, "You want to see sexism? I'll show you sexism!" Like, if this guy thinks she's scamming people and deserves to be called out on that, fine. But when your first inclination to publicly shame her is to use violence to shut her up, you might just be a misogynist after all! For fuck's sake.
luchador_kaiju 7th-Jul-2012 02:10 am (UTC)
Wow, I'm a super supporter of Anita's project. This is just so disgusting. I hope she just keeps on going with her project. The video game scene is in DIRE and I say DIRE need of self evaluation. It's a men's club with complete disregard to various groups of people and often times abusive to engage in. Oh god, the things I've seen/heard.

Gaming and gamers needs to grow up, seriously.
ladypolitik 7th-Jul-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
In which the world continues to avoid dating or fucking creepy gamer dudes.
cellared 7th-Jul-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
Oh my god, the comments.
candybouquet 7th-Jul-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
Aside from the utterly disgusting and dismissive commentary about how this isn't even "real bullying", what is with the insistence that she scammed people of their money!?
zemi_chan 7th-Jul-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
I love it when people say that those who fight against social injustice, like Anita Sarkeesian, are "too sensitive." Yeah, we're totally sensitive and mushy, because willingly putting ourselves at risk of facing incessant harassment for our beliefs is totally weak. I mean, how much of a baby do you have to be to boldly swim against the current of prevalent social idiocy like that? Weaklings, we are!
archanglrobriel 7th-Jul-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
I say every time we read about another hateful thing she's going through, we go donate more money to her cause. Clearly she's hit way too close to the bone for some of these bipedal humanoid apes and that's why they're going all de-evolutionary, poo-flinging spiral at the mere mention of her name.
zemi_chan 7th-Jul-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
That's a fantastic idea! Next time I get any spare change, I'm totally doing that.
porcelain72 7th-Jul-2012 03:14 am (UTC)
I have to wonder, how do these people behave in real life? They all have mothers, surely some have sisters, maybe even girlfriends or wives. How do they act around them? Because honestly, the vile garbage I'm seeing coming from some of them makes me believe that they're one step away from becoming serial killers. This is beyond any kind of comprehension.
sobota 7th-Jul-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
yeah but all the women these men know aren't like 'those other women'.
sihaya09 7th-Jul-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
These people are fucking disgusting.
beoweasel 7th-Jul-2012 03:29 am (UTC)
NOT READING THE COMMENTS AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME. :|
surealistic_des 7th-Jul-2012 03:39 am (UTC)
Amen to that. Urgh. Disgusting really. :|
alryssa 7th-Jul-2012 03:48 am (UTC)
I wish I could say I was surprised, but this is the same culture that whines about being 'friend zoned' and produces those ever annoying Nice Guys, so.



ladypolitik 7th-Jul-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
Some day, these shut-ins will connect the dots. Some day.
nesmith 7th-Jul-2012 03:55 am (UTC)
Judging from the comments here I'll back away. I trust that none of these neckbeard fuckers would be likely to meet me for real with my armor and live steel. Really easy to be a big tough guy online, but real life is a different story.
angelofdeath275 7th-Jul-2012 04:12 am (UTC)
how i wish there were real life consequences for these assholes

whether it includes a mark on their record, jail, getting the shit beaten out of them


they really wanna prove whose the real oversensitive one
new_wave_witch 7th-Jul-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
Someone should make a Bingo card for the kinds of responses her project is receiving because I've been seeing a lot of repeats.

1) She doesn't play games! She invading our territory! Games are MINE, not hers!

2) White knights! Defending her, agreeing with her, or sharing the same morals and politics on this subject won't get you laid!

3) Blah blah invalidation, the problems she describes don't exist, aren't really problems, girl gamers I know don't care about that stuff...

I'm sure there are more. Those are three I see pretty much everywhere her project is mentioned.
candybouquet 7th-Jul-2012 04:28 am (UTC)
Ohlord, I saw the "defending her = white knight11!" on facebook. And lmao on girl gamers i know. Because women are all one entity.

Also:

"She scammed people of their money!"
"What about the mensz who are wearing tight t-shirts and muscles!?"
"What about x game with a good female character!?"
"This isn't real bullying"

edit: for format

Edited at 2012-07-07 04:29 am (UTC)
ascendings 7th-Jul-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
fuck, i love video games (while acknowledging the heaps of problems in the genre) but i fucking hate ~gaming culture~ and the men involved. and men in general
gramfaernes 7th-Jul-2012 08:36 pm (UTC)
I fully agree with this comment.
deleriumd 7th-Jul-2012 04:40 am (UTC)
This is why my partner and I are donating a large sum of money.
kikai_saigono 7th-Jul-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
baked_goldfish 7th-Jul-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
Male-dominated gamer culture (and honestly, male-dominated geek culture as a whole) ain't nothing but a frat house with tabletop campaigns.
nikoel 7th-Jul-2012 06:46 pm (UTC)
That's part of what's so enraging about it. They feel downtrodden because they're not "alpha males" yet turn around and treat everyone else (actual oppressed peoples) the exact same way they feel they're being treated by the alphas. And they refuse to see the irony!
hinoema 7th-Jul-2012 06:39 am (UTC)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: anyone who thinks that feminists who push back hard against online harassment are being oversensitive needs to understand that we're all trying to keep ourselves from becoming Anita Sarkeesians.

I only wish someday I could *become* an Anita Sarkeesian. Woman is fierce. The problem isn't being her, it's the troglodytes using her image as a misogynist punching bag, literally.
antique_faery 8th-Jul-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
She really is a boss. Good for her and I am SO sorry for the shit that she has to go through. It's sad, but at the very least these idiotic trolls are only proving her point.
zhiva_the_mage 7th-Jul-2012 07:43 am (UTC)
So male gamers are enraged by the thought that they harass women and to prove that they don't, they wage a harassment campaign against woman who said that male gamers harass women. Logic, how does it work?
nikoel 7th-Jul-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
AND THEY DO NOT SEE THE IRONY.

Seriously, just ugh.
randomcheeses 7th-Jul-2012 07:47 am (UTC)
Ugh. Everything I hate about gamer culture in one big disgusting example. And the reason I do most of my buying in a game shop staffed primarily by women.

I have the right to go and buy Skyrim without some guy trying to repeatedly interest me in cooking mama, damnit!.
4eyedblonde 7th-Jul-2012 03:40 pm (UTC)
Oh my god did that really happen??
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