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11:42 pm - 07/09/2012
Is It Wrong to Call This 20-Year-Old Who Punched a Street Harasser a Hero?

A photo of a woman grinning and flashing the bandaged hand, injured after punching the misogynist sack of shit she overheard threatening to rape a stranger, has amost 56,000 notes on Tumblr and counting. The assailant says she never intended for the image to go viral nor to become a role model for the thousands of people who are now virtually applauding her actions.

Last weekend, Kelsey, the 20-year-old Minnesotan behind Ignite My Thoughts, was walking home after last call when she heard two men catcalling a woman across the street who was "obviously intoxicated." When the woman silently quickened her pace, one of the guys allegedly said, "Fucking cunt, I'd take her into the back alley and show her what I'm made of. She won't even see it coming," and then laughed.

Kelsey turned around and punched him in the face, and — if you couldn't tell by her mischievous grin — she has no regrets:

I hope your mother/girlfriend/sister/friends/everyone asks what happened to your nose. I hope you have to explain that you thought it'd be funny to joke with your friend about raping the drunk girl across the street. I bet you didn't think that the girl who was walking in front of you would turn around and punch you in the face. You're a filthy piece of shit and I don't regret this at all.


The day after the incident, Kelsey was at work when she received a message that her blog post was "going viral." By the time she got home, the entry had tens of thousands of notes and Kelsey had hundreds of personal messages — some congratulating her, others threatening to rape her. "Hey you crazy bitch, he was joking about rape, not raping the drunk bimbo, not even plotting on raping her, he was JOKING," one person wrote. "Wow. And you seem proud of what you did. Seriously, you're the one who deserves to get raped."

"I don't regret [punching the man], though I do understand that there are other ways that the situation could have been handled," Kelsey wrote in a follow-up post. "At the time, however, what he said as a 'joke' also seemed very much like a legitimate threat." She pointed out that the blog post was for herself and her friends and she wasn't trying to make a grand statement about fighting back: "I'm not telling people to go out and hit 'everybody who offends you' (though many of you are believing that was the point). However, I do believe that serious action needs to be taken towards rape culture."

The "responsible" part of me knows that violence is never the best answer, but there's an irrepressible little voice in my head that wants to thank her, because few things make me feel more vulnerable and frustrated than street harassment. When I've tried to talk back to catcallers, I've been called a dyke (because obviously I'm disinterested in men if I'm disinterested in being the target of aggressive obscenities), a bitch and a slut. I would never physically fight back, but, honestly, that's mostly because I'm a 5'2'' weakling. I'm not saying what she did was right, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy someone taught that asshole a lesson he hopefully won't forget.


Source at Jezebel.

Unfortunately it appears she had to take her tumblr account down, where she reports she's turned herself in. Fuck you, world. I hope she gets off with nothing on her record and infinite internet high-fives for the rest of her life.
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jenny_jenkins 10th-Jul-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
I love her.
lanculus 12th-Jul-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
Agreed. She's definitely a hero. She might've even saved that woman from something horrible.
zemi_chan 10th-Jul-2012 03:54 am (UTC)


Also, I hope this ends up on the front-page of LJ.

Edited at 2012-07-10 04:01 am (UTC)
windsong_moon 10th-Jul-2012 03:54 am (UTC)
Whatever, I think it's awesome.
alryssa 10th-Jul-2012 04:03 am (UTC)
Because joking about rape totally doesn't trivialise it at all, or minimise the suffering of rape victims in any way. Oh, and threatening to rape someone for joking about rape? Yeah. Thanks for staying classy, guys. Go walk barefoot over a field of broken beer bottles.
thepikey 10th-Jul-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
Go belly crawl over a field of broken beer bottles with your fly unzipped.

Fixed.

eversofar 10th-Jul-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
w/e, i wish i had punched the guys who have said gross shit to me.

it's awful that she's gotten so many threats over this. i wish the best for her.
yamamanama 10th-Jul-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
Threats, really? What's wrong with people?
romp 10th-Jul-2012 05:49 am (UTC)
she clearly doesn't know her place >:/
luchador_kaiju 10th-Jul-2012 02:40 pm (UTC)
That's how I feel. I'm tiny with stick arms and as much as I'd want to defend myself and others... I can't take that chance. I'm very much NOT strong. I can barely lift the totes at work. :(
lillyangel 10th-Jul-2012 04:19 am (UTC)
Tumblr has a lot of feelings about this. I'm hoping that assholes from the internet won't try to come after her, because she rocks.

Edited at 2012-07-10 04:20 am (UTC)
bleed_peroxide 10th-Jul-2012 04:27 am (UTC)
This woman is a badass, and I hope nothing happens to her. I wish I had her bravery - I wouldn't be able to do that for fear of getting my ass kicked.

Edited at 2012-07-10 04:28 am (UTC)
mollywobbles867 10th-Jul-2012 04:35 am (UTC)
Four for you Glen Coco!

I don't know what I'd do in the same situation. I would probably just yell at him if I felt brave enough or angry enough to do so.
astridmyrna 10th-Jul-2012 04:37 am (UTC)
"At the time, however, what he said as a 'joke' also seemed very much like a legitimate threat."

That's what I was thinking. When two guys are catcalling and "joking" about raping a drunk girl just across the street, this girl probably went into fight or flight mode and chose fight.
roseofjuly 10th-Jul-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Yo, this. Two guys joking about raping a drunk girl can very quickly turn into two guys actually raping a drunk girl.
lykomancer 10th-Jul-2012 04:38 am (UTC)
I wish I knew where in in the state I had to go in order to me to meet this awesometastic human being so that I could give her a real-life high-five. (With her other, non-hurty hand, of course.)
wikilobbying 10th-Jul-2012 04:41 am (UTC)
still don't blame her at all for doing it. his words don't even sound like a joke, they sound threatening. not that "jokes" can't come off as threatening, but i can just imagine what this dude sounded like when he said it and it doesn't come off like he didn't mean it in some way. and i'm sick of the narrative that we always need to be perfectly calm and civil and educating all the time no matter what, like people who would hurt us without giving it a second thought even want to be educated or actually care about our politeness.
anolinde 10th-Jul-2012 04:47 am (UTC)
Is It Wrong to Call This 20-Year-Old Who Punched a Street Harasser a Hero?

...Is this actually a question? All street harassers deserved to be punched, repeatedly, until they stop fucking harassing people.
thecityofdis 10th-Jul-2012 01:21 pm (UTC)
+1
can_be_cruel 10th-Jul-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
I'd have punched the fucker, too. He deserved it. Fuck him and his "jokes". $20 says he's raped a girl already, or will in the near future. It's not a fucking joke, and whoever says shit like that? Is probably a fucking criminal already.
rhodanum TW: mention of sexual abuse and language10th-Jul-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
This.... If there's anything absolutely guaranteed to make me see red, it's shit like this.

I was sexually abused both as a child and as a teenager. And guess what I do to men who verbally abuse, harass or grope me or other women? I fucking beat the shit out of them. I've beaten misogynistic assholes with my bare hands, with tree branches, with wooden chair legs and with vacuum cleaner pipes! One motherfucker got his face introduced to a stone wall several times in a row.

As far as I'm concerned, she deserves a goddamn gold medal for probably saving that woman from something utterly horrible. And then these bastards come out and demand that we all be fucking pretty pictures of demure restraint that smile and quietly take abuse, because rape culture is all a fucking joke, isn't it?
aviv_b 10th-Jul-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
Yes, because it should be obvious that someone who calls a woman a c**t has a high regard for women. How could you possibly think he was threatening when he said he'd take her in an alley? Frankly, I'm only sorry she didn't kick him in the groin as well. This needs a 'hate men' or similar tag.
magus_69 10th-Jul-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
Is it right to call her a hero? Yes, yes it is. Next question, please.
thepikey 10th-Jul-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
A) Pretty sure nothing 'official' will happen to her unless the jackass she punched steps forward to actually register a complaint.
B) Pretty sure nobody weaselly enough to prey on the helpless and steeped in male entitlement would have the guts to step forward and admit in public
i) he thinks rape is funny, and
ii) he got his ass kicked by a girl

I say, give her a key to the friggin' CITY.


For that matter, I hope HE gets identified by all the attention that's come up from this, and that he gets publicly revealed and shamed for being the piece of shit he is.
granting 10th-Jul-2012 12:04 pm (UTC)
I doubt any prosecutor would bother with this in a real way - certainly not without a victim. Even then my guess would be some community service in exchange for dismissal of any charges.

The only "official" thing would be if he decided to sue her civilly for medical bills. But as you point out, the asshole would have to go public... and I don't see that happening.
obscure_abyss 10th-Jul-2012 05:06 am (UTC)
Is it just me or is there a lot more of this misogynistic crap going around? Or maybe it's just the availability of information from less-biased sources, I dunno. Part of me feels like maybe this is the very beginning of a last big dying breath of patriarchy but I highly doubt I'm right about that.

Edited because I can't spell.

Edited at 2012-07-10 05:06 am (UTC)
thepikey 10th-Jul-2012 05:22 am (UTC)
Last breath? No, not even close. This kind of thing is going to go on for a long, LONG time.

This is the patriarchy starting to dimly realize that they DON'T get to have everything, and that long-held privileges are withering away.

I *do* think more/better information is working it's way into mainstream discussion, which is a positive. I also think as time goes on, some of the furthest out and most egregious bits of oppression will fall by the wayside as sufficient numbers of men come to realize and accept 'this is bullshit'. I also think those men will also hold other bits of misogyny near and dear and resist losing everything - 'that is privilege, but this other thing is fine and I don't want you to change it'.

I don't realistically hope that it'll happen overnight, but I believe it'll be a gradual process, perhaps with some backwards steps, but ultimately leading forward.

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice" -MLK
fickery 10th-Jul-2012 05:10 am (UTC)
She's MY fucking hero. I hope she never has to pay for a drink again.
shoujokakumei 10th-Jul-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
Fuck that guy and all the shitbags on the internet that harassed her for posting about it. Maybe if more assholes got their heads knocked for saying horrible shit like that, they might think twice.
sakuracookie 10th-Jul-2012 05:38 am (UTC)
This is disgusting. I get more and more disappointed every time I hear about some idiot making light of rape. Disgusting.

I wish I could say "I would have done the same thing" but I am terribly afraid of being overpowered by whoever is evil enough to make a joke about raping someone.

...just disgusting.
umi_mikazuki 10th-Jul-2012 05:46 am (UTC)




I really hate men sometimes.
anolinde 10th-Jul-2012 03:29 pm (UTC)
A+ gifs
_cheshire 10th-Jul-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
She's now my spirit animal. So much applause for her.

I will forever hate all the dudebros and others who trivialize rape and make jokes out of it. I once had two male ex-friends randomly throw me to the floor and pin me while hanging out with friends. I started screaming and begging them to leave me alone (which they refused), and then after my best friend (who knew I'd been raped a year before) showed up and basically kicked their asses into the next room they were just like, "she knew it was all fun and games!" ....how the hell is society's views about rape and women so fucked that that's considered acceptable behavior?

I know I'm ranting too much rn but I loathe rape culture.
hey_mayonegg 10th-Jul-2012 06:32 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry that happened to you. :(
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