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Company CFO Fired for Chick-Fil-A Drive-Thru Video

3:39 pm - 08/03/2012
People on both sides of the Chick-fil-A debate seemed to agree that a Tucson man who made a viral video belittling a patient restaurant worker acted like a sanctimonious jerk, even his boss – make that ex-boss.

Adam Smith, who posted an online video of himself going through a Chick-fil-A drive-thru and ordering only the free water, was canned from his gig as chief financial officer of Vante, a Tucson medical manufacturing company, after the video made the rounds.

“Chick-fil-A is a hateful company,” Smith tells the employee. "I don’t know how you sleep at night,” Smith adds at another point. This is a horrible corporation with horrible values.”
After the employee, who never loses her composure, wishes Smith a nice day, he responds “I will. I just did something really good. I feel purposeful.”

Smith pulled the video from YouTube, but by then, it had already gone viral. People on both sides of the debate blasted him for his treatment of the woman in thousands of posts online.
On Thursday, Smith’s boss at Vante, CEO Roger Vogel, cashiered Smith.

“Vante regrets the unfortunate events that transpired yesterday in Tucson between our former CFO/Treasurer Adam Smith and an employee at Chick-fil-A,” the company said in a statement. “Effective immediately, Mr. Smith is no longer an employee of our company.

“We hope that the general population does not hold Mr. Smith's actions against Vante and its employees,” the statement continued.

Vogel said he wasn’t weighing in on either side of the debate, which began when Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy said he supports the “biblical” definition of marriage. Same-sex marriage advocates blasted the company, which in turn prompted a national outpouring of support for the chicken chain on Wednesday.

Smith previously taught as an adjunct lecturer at the University of Arizona, according to reports, but does not currently hold a position with university.

Video at the source.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/03/viral-video-man-picking-on-chick-fil-worker-gets-him-fired/#ixzz22Vt6B2XP

Opinion: I find it a contradiction that some of the Chick-Fil-A supporters support the firing of the CFO at the same time they support Cathy for his free speech. I guess free speech is allowed if it supports your agenda.
poetic_pixie_13 3rd-Aug-2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
I really fail to see how you've done anything good by berating an employee who very likely, regardless of her views, might have no choice in working for Chick-Fil-A. You want to boycott, awesome, but harassing an employee who has no power or control over what her bosses do is such an dick move. I can't with self-righteous assholes (and I say this as one).
executivehpfan 3rd-Aug-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
MTE. So much this.
yeats 3rd-Aug-2012 07:56 pm (UTC)
fuck this guy. i have absolutely no sympathy for him. chick-fil-a is a fucking vile company, but that doesn't mean he gets to take out his legitimate frustration on the poor woman (poor as in unlucky, but probably in a financial sense as well, given that she likely makes minimum wage) working the register.

if he wanted to pick a fight, why didn't he do it with one of the asshats choosing to eat there, instead of someone who may not have an effective choice about where to work, given the state of the country's economy?

this dude is a classist prick, and he got what was coming to him. i'm embarrassed that he's on my side.
thecityofdis 3rd-Aug-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
agreed. at the same time, though, i agree with op's take.

tl;dr assholes gonna ass.
astridmyrna 3rd-Aug-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)


I am so sure that she is donating millions to anti-gay organizations with that minimum wage job. Seriously, fuck this guy.
flcadam 3rd-Aug-2012 08:03 pm (UTC)
I understand that his company wants to keep a professional image, but it seems unfair to fire this employee simply because of some statements that he made during his off-time. While obnoxious, it doesn't exactly seem like he crossed any lines. It doesn't look like he cursed her out or anything excessive. It feels like this was more along the lines of irritating political speech, which should be in his right to make while he's not at work.
nene13 3rd-Aug-2012 08:11 pm (UTC)
That's my take. He is on his own time. He's not speaking for his company. He doesn't even mention them. He doesn't berate her or yell or cuss or insult her. The farthest he gets is saying how she could live with herself for working for such a company. Cathy's comments labeled an entire generation prideful and arrogant based on his beliefs. The self-righteousness aside, his free speech, especially on his own time, should not be considered an excuse for termination. And I call upon all people who support Chick-Fil-A on the basis of free speech to support this individual as a matter of principle.
starbonds 3rd-Aug-2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
fuck this guy and fuck facebook who to this day still defend it to this day regurgitated dumb arguments like it's only his opinion or why not boycott walmart or gas

As another user put it, I see it as the workers behind the counter taking away money from the company. We have no idea what kind of situation they are in anyway.

Also I think we need a chik-fi-a tag now
bestdaywelived 3rd-Aug-2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
That makes no sense. Having workers means that they can meet the supply of customers. They aren't costing the company money, they're making this gross company a bundle with their work.

evewithanapple 3rd-Aug-2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
After the employee, who never loses her composure, wishes Smith a nice day, he responds “I will. I just did something really good. I feel purposeful.”

Yeah, you sure showed her. I bet after he said this, rainbows erupted all around him, rays of sunlight burst through his ass, and Oscar Wilde descended from on high to declare him The Winningest Person.
arisma 3rd-Aug-2012 09:02 pm (UTC)
Really, wtf kind of person do you have to be to walk away from that situation with that level of Yay Me!
lil_insanity 3rd-Aug-2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
I don't want this guy on my side. Can we send him back to the factory? I want a refund.
curseangel 3rd-Aug-2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
Ugh, what an asshole.

As much as that guy is a douchebag, though, I'm really, really uncomfortable with him being fired for it. I'm very much against the idea that companies can look up employees and fire them based on things they write, say or post on the internet when not working. I can't sit here and say, "This guy so deserved to be fired" and then turn around and say I'm NOT okay with my future employer firing me because they don't like that I got pissed at someone on Tumblr. You know?

Basically, this guy is a jackass and deserves to get shit for treating that woman like that, but he didn't deserve to be fired for it.
kitanabychoice 3rd-Aug-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
This is a little different, though, I think. It puts a bad face to a company to have a a high-ranking employee publicly be douche-y to someone who doesn't deserve it, so I could understand that the company did not want to be part of it. Unfortunately, jobs like his are the ones that are the face of the company. I am skeptical of whether he would've received such quick retribution if he had've been in a lower, less visible position.
lizcharlene 3rd-Aug-2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
I think they overreacted to Cathy's statements, which was intended for a religious audience and not the general population. Just because he personally supports a particular lifestyle does not mean that he is "anti-" the contra.
Also, what kind of grown-up pulls idiotic mischief through a drive-thru towards an employee who has little influence on the company president. There is nothing to accomplish here.
flcadam 3rd-Aug-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
I think that the reaction to his comments was just an excuse to launch the boycott. From what I understand, GLBT activists have had grievances with Chick-Fil-A long before this controversy, but they just didn't possess the impetus for protest.

Though I agree that for those who are responding to his words, it's a bit of an overreaction. If someone is: A) older, B) conservative, and 3) very religious, I'm just going to anticipate that they're opposed to same-sex marriage. I definitely wouldn't be up in arms after they confirm my suspicions.
angelofdeath275 3rd-Aug-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
After the employee, who never loses her composure, wishes Smith a nice day, he responds “I will. I just did something really good. I feel purposeful.”


lol oh come the fuck on
ohmiya_sg 3rd-Aug-2012 08:50 pm (UTC)


I'm not sure the organizer of the protest would approve.
redstar826 3rd-Aug-2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
I wish people would do their best to leave the low level employees out of this as much as possible. When I worked in retail, I would get chewed out for all sorts of random things from people angry about prices to people who wanted to me to know how awful it was that we had a fur coat event each winter. All things which I had absolutely no control over.

I worked at a store once that was being picketed for a day or two over the use of sweatshop labor. I told the protesters as I was walking in that I supported them but had to work and they were super nice about it.
alryssa 3rd-Aug-2012 09:04 pm (UTC)
This was a really shitty fucking thing for him to do to an employee who has no control over what their corporate overlords do or say. He just wanted to be a smarmy self-righteous jackass and get asspats on Youtube. How's that working out for you, dudebro?
layweed 3rd-Aug-2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
I really want some Kool Aid on a day like this, or maybe some iced tea.
kitanabychoice 3rd-Aug-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, no sympathy for this guy. I totally understand having a hate-on for chick-fil-a, but that doesn't mean you go and belittle the employees. You just refuse to shop there, like everyone else.
baked_goldfish 3rd-Aug-2012 09:34 pm (UTC)
Well that probably well-paid CFO sure did show that drive through operator who maybe makes $10/hour if that.
baka_tenshi 3rd-Aug-2012 09:53 pm (UTC)
The hell are you doing? :|

Honestly, I'm still kind of like "what" because I had posted the recipe on Wednesday to at least try to shut up those who are like "BUT THE SANDWICHES ARE SO DELICIOUS GUYS WHAT AM I TO DO" and, surprise surprise, I start to get messages that "it's just his opinion and omg he's a Chritsian though". I went to a friend's house that day but when I came back that's pretty much what I saw. Those people are intelligent and it's like "but why would you say that? And what's the point of him being a Christian?" I posted this after I read all the comments:

"Obviously being a Christian isn't a problem. I don't think anyone said anything bad about being one. However, until Christians stop using God and the bible to excuse their hate, they should really think about who Jesus walked with and helped before they cast the stone of those "sinners". And I'm talking about the LGBQT communities, those women who *gasp* chooses abortion, the poor, the disabled, the ones who face real oppression (based on the color of their skin, different religion if they choose so, class, whether or not they're cis-gendered) rather than some perceived oppression because some CEO showed his ass under the guise of Christanity and *double gasp* paying the consequences of his hate speech."

I mentioned those groups in particular because I have a few ~devil's advocates~ on my FB. And I pretty much said, "if you group those groups with those who commit crime, you can fuck right off" (paraphrasing). Oddly enough I never got a response. :")

My point is that: what's the point of Cathy being Christian? So what? Does that mean he gets a free pass? But whenever someone who's Atheist or Mulism or any other religion call bullshit on their comments - suddenly its okay? But why is it okay? Is it because they're not Christian?

(I know I know and don't mind me, I'm still like "what does being a Christian have to do with Cathy & co donating to hate groups and actively adding to the problem?" ;;;)
kyra_neko_rei 3rd-Aug-2012 10:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I don't care if somebody's a Christian. I care if they're a bigot. I wish people would quit conflating the two, or trying to justify the bigotry by defining it as an essential part of their religious identity.

A few weeks ago, a church group which has many congregations in Minnesota released a statement of opposition to the anti-gay-marriage amendment awaiting voting this November. This church currently in its own beliefs defines marriage as between a man and a woman. Some random asshole took it upon hirself to write a letter-to-the-editor realchristiansplaining that the church's view of in-their-church marriage as straights-only was their REAL opinion on the marriage amendment, disappearing the church's opinion on whether they considered it important to force people of other religious identities to live by their church's statement of belief as regards to marriage.

I read that letter and thought, "This is the distinction we make when we call you bigots. This is the distinction you fail to make when you call us intolerant or anti-religion or accuse us of forcing our lifestyles on you. Yay on this church for getting it, and the world would be so much of a better place if everybody else did too."
sihaya09 3rd-Aug-2012 09:59 pm (UTC)
So, I'm on the fence about him being fired from his job, since he was on his own time, but there is no getting around that this guy is an asshole. Echoing lots of comments here, taking out his anger on a cashier is not the way to effect change, period. It's not exactly sinking to ChickFilA's level, but his tactics are shitty and in no way reflect well on him.
kyra_neko_rei 3rd-Aug-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
I'm willing to accept higher standards for CFOs and other high-paid, public-figure type jobs in terms of "You're embarrassing us."

Aside from that, fully agreeing. Especially in this economy, at that income level; especially after reading yesterday's post from the gay Chick-Fil-A employee---Chick-Fil-A's asshole of a head honcho is not going to be running the drive-through for somebody to harass. It's more likely to be somebody who works there because having a shitty job is better than starving. Something that this douchebag, as a Chief Financial Officer, probably has no understanding of due to massive privilege.
crossfire 3rd-Aug-2012 10:19 pm (UTC)
Not only was that a dick thing to do, but way to feed into the Religious Right's persecution complex.
brother_dour 4th-Aug-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
There has to be a better word for that. 'Persecution' is misleading...the formal definition makes no difference between who is on the receiving end it.
k0liverbby 3rd-Aug-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
i don't really believe in targeting the employees because not all of us have the luxury of up and quitting our jobs even if they may be assholes
hourglasscreate 3rd-Aug-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
Bullying the poor minimum wage soul working the drive through isn't appropriate. I'm in the boycott CFA camp, but Mr Smith is an ass.
alierakieron 3rd-Aug-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences of being a massive dick publicly.
brother_dour Wait...what?4th-Aug-2012 01:22 am (UTC)
It was my impression that the guy was fired for belittling the worker, not criticizing Chick-Fil-A.
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