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FBI declares Juggalos a gang; ICP sues

12:38 am - 08/11/2012
Last fall, the FBI included Juggalos in their National Gang Assessment for 2011 (PDF). On pages 22 and 23, the FBI lists them under "non-traditional gangs," calling them "a loosely-organized hybrid gang." Some of the criminal activities carried out by ICP fans appear in this section, along with a photo of a Juggalo with a gun that the FBI took from the ATF (trigger warning for descriptions of violence).
At first, the inclusion of Juggalos in the FBI's list was mocked by Spencer Ackerman at Wired, who observed "The FBI has recently had difficulty distinguishing ordinary American Muslims from terrorists; now it appears it has a similar problem distinguishing teenage fads from criminal conspiracies." As recently as Thursday, the Village Voice posted that people thought the FBI report was an example of "another example of a federal agency looking foolish for its cultural ineptitude." That was until the U.S. Marshal Service issued a press release listing the fugitives added to New Mexico's Most Wanted.
Mark Anthony Carslon A.K.A. Mark Carlton is wanted on two felony warrants for failing to comply with the terms of probation both on underlying armed robbery cases. Carlson is a member of the Insane Clown Posse “Juggalo” gang. The “Juggalos” were recently classified as a gang by the Albuquerque Police Department Gang unit and it is believed that Carlson is still actively committing armed robberies in the Albuquerque Metro area.
Bolding from The Village Voice, who also reproduced Carlson's wanted poster, which listed his criminal affiliation as "Insane Clown Posse 'Juggalo'."


This declaration has caused the band and its fans all kinds of grief, as outlined in Vice (NSFW--what do you expect from a magazine called "Vice"?). If nothing else, Juggalos can be sentenced as gang members instead of ordinary criminals and the band's merchandise is no longer being sold at Hot Topic and other stores, who won't touch "gang apparel."

On Friday, ICP announced that they had had enough. The Village Voice reported:
Insane Clown Posse announced at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos "seminar," a veritable State of the Juggalo Union address given to "the heartbeat of the entire Juggalo world," that they were planning to sue the FBI in response.
The article also contains the text of the band's press release.

ICP and their label Psychopathic Records also launched a website, Juggalos Fight Back soliciting their fans for information about any legal troubles they may have suffered as a result of their fandom. Qualifying applicants will receive legal assistance provided by Psychopathic Records' law firm.
Crossposted from Crazy Eddie's Motie News.
lickety_split 11th-Aug-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
OMG A JUGGALO POST YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
darksumomo 11th-Aug-2012 05:06 am (UTC)
And one that's on-topic, too. Never thought you'd see the day that Juggalos would be SRS BZNS, did you?
fofomazuzu 11th-Aug-2012 05:08 am (UTC)
omg reading this article has made me terrified of Juggalos.

Like, their Gathering of the Juggalo videos are hilarious to make fun of but I would never want to make one mad.

Edited at 2012-08-11 05:08 am (UTC)
girly123 12th-Aug-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
Holy shit, Tila Tequila. D:
jasonbeast 11th-Aug-2012 05:09 am (UTC)
I am willing to accept that a fair number of Juggalos commit crimes, but I don't really think they're a gang. Having met a fair number of 'em in Nevada, I'm pretty sure they're mostly just assholes in general. There's probably a statistic somewhere backing up a supposition that most crimes are committed by assholes. Just my two cents, lol
layweed 11th-Aug-2012 05:15 am (UTC)
Yeah I agree. I'm sure there are plenty of perfectly reasonable, well mannered Juggalos out there, unfortunately the majority (and those who are in the news) are fucking assholes.
zombieroadtrip 11th-Aug-2012 05:59 am (UTC)
>reasonable
>listen to guys who paint their faces with clown makeup sing songs about rape and violent murder

?
zombieroadtrip 11th-Aug-2012 05:11 am (UTC)
Can we have them arrested for their taste though?
lanculus 11th-Aug-2012 10:10 am (UTC)
Yes please
bestdaywelived 11th-Aug-2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
LOL
kitanabychoice 11th-Aug-2012 04:08 pm (UTC)
IA. ICP has always scared the shit out of me.
layweed 11th-Aug-2012 05:13 am (UTC)
ITA.
rainbow_fish 11th-Aug-2012 05:14 am (UTC)
Fucking gangs, how do they work?
darksumomo 11th-Aug-2012 05:18 am (UTC)
+1 Beats "Foolish Ballistic Insinuation."
pepsquad 11th-Aug-2012 05:21 am (UTC)
lol
simplefaith08 11th-Aug-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
hahaha, yes
pepsquad 11th-Aug-2012 05:20 am (UTC)
i know that kid! wow he's gone places with himself. And i used to work at hottopic where there was insane "shrinkage" (read: stealing) from juggalos.
sankaku_atama 11th-Aug-2012 02:50 pm (UTC)
Oh, I don't know...I once got a really good pair of steel-toe boots from there as a gift.

Of course, that probably falls under the category of "finding a diamond in a trash bin".
pepsquad 11th-Aug-2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
so true
freezer 11th-Aug-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
By this "logic",should'nt Anonymous be considered a terrorist group?
its_anya 11th-Aug-2012 10:05 am (UTC)
Aren't they already by some people? I study politics, and when I was looking at governmental internet regulation, all of the academic articles I was reading kept referring to Anonymous as an organised hacking group. There isn't really a lot of awareness about what Anonymous actually is, so it doesn't surprise me at all that someone should take that a step further and think of them as a terrorist group. You only have to search 'Anonymous terrorist' on Google and you get a helluva lot of results.

(edit for html fail)

Edited at 2012-08-11 10:05 am (UTC)
mingemonster 11th-Aug-2012 01:12 pm (UTC)
loling at the idea of academic articles on Anonymous
mingemonster 11th-Aug-2012 01:11 pm (UTC)
They are, according to several US states

Also, Fox news

Edited at 2012-08-11 01:12 pm (UTC)
dearmisterecho 11th-Aug-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
this is 'shooped but to go along with the "homg, a Juggalo post, and it's RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY?!" excitement going on here:

door 11th-Aug-2012 12:12 pm (UTC)
My nephew has an ICP tattoo. I should ask him if he realizes he's a gang member now.
bestdaywelived 11th-Aug-2012 08:21 pm (UTC)
You should smack him in the head for his poor sense of taste.
door 11th-Aug-2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
I would but he's also a birther so I really have to choose my battles.
gr_julian 13th-Aug-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
Lawd
ellenel13 11th-Aug-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
. . . First time I hear of them not even gonna lie
zombieroadtrip 11th-Aug-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry. I was the same until recently, I guess ICP never took off in my area when I was younger. Unfortunately there is no way to erase this knowledge from your mind.
redstar826 12th-Aug-2012 01:58 am (UTC)
you guys are lucky. Living in the Detroit area, I had to hear about these fools before the rest of the country knew they existed. They were already big locally back when I was in high school in the mid 1990s.

uggg, my state sure produces some real winners!
communion 12th-Aug-2012 08:01 am (UTC)
oh my god someone needs to link you the post where radiovolume found out who they were
brother_dour 12th-Aug-2012 02:06 am (UTC)
It's not so much a gang affiliation as an illness, IMHO
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