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Mia Love claims GOP war on women will create 'more free choice' for women

6:25 pm - 09/09/2012
Small town Mayor Mia Love (R-UT), a GOP congressional candidate who received a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, is considered a rising star by many within her party. Yet she offered a defense of the Republican Party’s plans to roll back reproductive freedom on Fox News Sunday today that takes a significant amount of liberty with the English language. In a discussion about the GOP’s plan to make abortion illegal, defund Planned Parenthood and enable employers to restrict their employees’ access to birth control, Love suggested these policies will lead to “more free choice and more liberties” for women. Watch it:



Love also claimed that GOP policies will let her “keep a little bit of my own money so I can pay for my own contraceptives if I want to,” but that’s only true if Love is very wealthy. Even under the most generous reading of the Romney/Ryan tax plan, middle class families would experience a tax increase of up to $2000.

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wingstar102 10th-Sep-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
ROFLMAO! Seriously? You guys sure this isn't from the Onion?
layweed 10th-Sep-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
You know how Arthur C. Clarke once said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"? There a similar analogy to be drawn with the ridiculousness of the Republican Party, Fox News, and The Onion: "Any sufficiently ridiculous statement on FoxNews is indistinguishable from The Onion".

Edited at 2012-09-10 12:16 am (UTC)
wingstar102 10th-Sep-2012 12:38 am (UTC)
LOL. Thanks. You've brought perspective back into my life.
tigerdreams 10th-Sep-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
Ah yes, Poe's Law.
simply_blah 10th-Sep-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
Free choice? Today is opposite day, I take it.
layweed 10th-Sep-2012 12:12 am (UTC)
Not going to click on the video because I can not fucking stand Fox News Sunday or Chris Wallce (seriously, can you believe he's the son of Mike Wallace? what the hell happened there?), but what the hell is she smoking?
bowtomecha 10th-Sep-2012 10:49 am (UTC)
Mike Wallace said a lot of homophobic and racist stuff so even though he didn't raise this guy, I think he absorbed something from him.
ladypolitik 10th-Sep-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
"Cuz I want 'More Liberties™' save up my own monies to buy my own contraceptives n' stuff".



---And sidewalks, freeways, lamp posts, and other public utilities too, right? I'd like to hear just how far her conceptualization and economic breakdown of Free Choice™ extends.

Edited at 2012-09-10 12:20 am (UTC)
estella7 10th-Sep-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
This woman confounds me. She is a Mormon in a church with an extremely racist past. She lives in Utah with a huge white population and she sides with misogynistic laws. I hate bringing up race and gender and believe people should have their own views but it's like she doesn't have any attachments to who she really is. In a way that's amazing and in another way WTF?

I want to give her the benefit of the doubt that she knows what she's doing but I can't help but feel she's being used by these institutions (LDS church/GOP) to say "See? We aren't anti-women/minorities!".

Edited at 2012-09-10 12:56 am (UTC)
kyra_neko_rei 10th-Sep-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
She's the ultimate Special Token Minority 'Splaining Mouthpiece and See-We're-Not-Racist/Sexist/Etc-Card.

Basically like the political version of a Mary Sue.

And . . . I don't know whether she's bought the far-right line to the point of shitloads of internalized self-hatred and is doing a mortification-of-the-flesh style path to trying to be good enough, exceptional, worth something to them, or whether she's just a heartless, selfish opportunist trying to seize personal power through the party that pays an extra premium for minority voices to shill for their agenda.

The effect is harmful regardless.
estella7 10th-Sep-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
I have a feeling, since she lives in Utah, that she actually believes this shit. Sad.
carmy_w 10th-Sep-2012 02:57 pm (UTC)
I was just asking this myself!
schexyschteve 10th-Sep-2012 12:23 am (UTC)
I would love to see the world the way Republicans like this see the world, even just for a day.
moonbladem 10th-Sep-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
Noooooo don't! You might never recover and end up a babbling mess.
mickeym 10th-Sep-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
...like the Republicans themselves? ;)

(I think that must be how it happened: one or two got these wild hairs, another couple thought "I just want to see the way they see things for a day"... and then they lost their way back. No breadcrumb trail to follow.)
layweed 10th-Sep-2012 12:39 am (UTC)
Like the Republican version of beer goggles? Not really sure I'd want to try that on.
wingstar102 10th-Sep-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
I think it'd be like a really bad acid trip. After watching Passion of the Christ.
schmanda 10th-Sep-2012 05:27 am (UTC)
I'd sooner try truck stop bath salts.
hoodoo 10th-Sep-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
i tried following her logic but my brain gave me a 404 error and then exploded.
moonbladem 10th-Sep-2012 12:33 am (UTC)
That's why I don't even bother trying to follow their logic. I already know most of it is idiotic.

In fact, thinking about my 'most of it' statement... my mind is going through which of their positions I agree with, and am coming up with nothing at the moment.
girly123 10th-Sep-2012 12:41 am (UTC)
The more I hear about this woman, the more I want to dropkick her into a volcano.
kalikahuntress 10th-Sep-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
I will gladly help you.
moonbladem 10th-Sep-2012 12:42 am (UTC)
Love suggested these policies will lead to “more free choice and more liberties” for women.

I don't even think she herself knows what the fuck she is talking about at this point.

My way of thinking goes like this: if the GOP succeeds in stripping women of our reproductive choices, like repealing Roe versus Wade, denying or restricting our access to contraceptives, and even object to other personal decisions like sterilization, how the fuck does that result in "more free choice and more liberties" for women?
kishmet 10th-Sep-2012 06:47 am (UTC)
idk about this woman but some of my anti-choice (also anti-contraception) acquaintances claim women find real freedom in abstinence and/or motherhood

...so yeah it's all bullshit, basically
squeeful 10th-Sep-2012 12:43 am (UTC)
GUYS! GUYS! WAR IS PEACE! HATE IS LOVE!





I am fucking high on cold meds. Woooooooo.
redstar826 10th-Sep-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
poor Orwell, he never meant for this stuff to be an instruction manual.

Also, wheeee cold meds! LOL
mollybarton 10th-Sep-2012 01:12 am (UTC)
What the hell is she talking about?
nicosian 10th-Sep-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
I know they THINK that if its up to the freeeeee market we could simply magically buy any service or product we wished.

But I suspect the other half of their brain isn't catching the fact they're trying to restrict those very options. So while they cry Get government outta MY choices, they also gleefully make sure women are under the yoke of GOP directed restrictions.

Its like watching a person argue with themselves in the mirror, its funny when my lizards did it, its not funny when humans do it though.
mickeym 10th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
I don't think she understands the concept of 'more free choices' or 'liberties'. *appalled face*
starsinshapes 10th-Sep-2012 01:53 am (UTC)
I am not here for black women (people) drink that uncle ruckus kool-aid.
girly123 10th-Sep-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
Lol, right?
kalikahuntress 10th-Sep-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
It's actually kind of amazing in a horrific kind of way. Does she tell herself every morning that she isn't a black woman allying herself with people who hate her/think she is subhuman because of who she is? How does that work, unless she has magically developed a way to look into the mirror every morning and not see a black woman.
zinnia_rose 10th-Sep-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
Let me get this straight. Taking away choices from women will give women more choices? Does she even LISTEN to herself?!

Edited at 2012-09-10 02:22 am (UTC)
romp 10th-Sep-2012 04:33 am (UTC)
sounds like the usual Free Market hand-waving to me--there's no way to discuss it because it's all magical thinking
kyra_neko_rei 10th-Sep-2012 02:25 am (UTC)
Love suggested these policies will lead to “more free choice and more liberties” for women.

. . . HOW?

I mean, unless she's got a Handmaid's Tale "freedom of is replaced by freedom from" thing going on . . . which didn't make sense in the first place . . .

The only way this can make any sense logically is by privileging some choices and some liberties over others, imposing on us a higher valuation of some liberties and a lower valuation of others. What she's saying is just a heavily camouflaged version of "contraception isn't that important; the ability to be a mother is the REAL freedom."

She is, as Chris Kluwe so beautifully put it, a BEAUTIFULLY UNIQUE SPARKLEPONY and a walking SLIDE WHISTLE TO E FLAT. (Translations.)
schmanda 10th-Sep-2012 05:42 am (UTC)
That Chris Kluwe rewrite of his letter... OMG. That'll teach me to miss a day or two in this community.
celtic_thistle 10th-Sep-2012 02:32 am (UTC)
This woman and her nonsense just make me sad. The GOP is using her as a "SEE WE AREN'T RACIST OR SEXIST" prop and it's infuriating and depressing.
angelofdeath275 10th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
I really cannot follow what she just said

I seriously tried
martydressler 10th-Sep-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooope.
forest_venus 10th-Sep-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
I'm watching NFL football right now and you know, this sounds like something that someone who has recently received a concussion would say.

I just... How?

Opposite day? The Onion?

Buh. My braen.

Brain is now offline. Will reboot tomorrow and continue to attempt to decipher more Republican "logic".

[edit because: mother of goat was my comment leaning toward inappropriate. this is why i usually don't comment this late.]

Edited at 2012-09-10 03:37 am (UTC)
likelolwhat 10th-Sep-2012 05:24 am (UTC)
I... wut. Just... wut?

My brain, it huuuurts. Trying to follow the crap coming out of this lady's mouth is impossible. *curls in fetal position* Nooooooooo...
kishmet 10th-Sep-2012 06:48 am (UTC)
Woooooowww trying to watch this while my meds are wearing off was not a good idea

Ouch my head
flcadam 10th-Sep-2012 12:09 pm (UTC)
Considering that she's mostly using FOX to reach out to conservatives to gain support for her campaign, I think that this wasn't a bad interview. The current GOP approach to messaging is to just continue driving home the values, like "choice," "liberty," etc. So I think she did a pretty good job of twisting around the topic of reproductive issues and showing how her stances align with GOP values. In front of a FOX audience, that's about all she has to accomplish.

I think that the GOP needs to shield her from any serious debate though if they want to get her into office. I really haven't seen anything to suggest that she's capable of doing more beyond parroting talking points. I see potential, but it's probably going to take some direct mentorship to get Love where she needs to be as a spokesperson for conservative causes.
hammersxstrings 10th-Sep-2012 12:51 pm (UTC)
with what extra money? Romney's plan is going raise taxes on the middle class
bestdaywelived 10th-Sep-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
But see ... under Romney, all those poor people with really great ideas for a small business can work hard and BECOME rich, and then they'll be taxed at rich people rates.
brother_dour 10th-Sep-2012 10:41 pm (UTC)
I predict a very large turnout of women exercising their freedoms on November 6, all right...
cindel 10th-Sep-2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
More free choices for women to have unwanted children.....ok then
hey_mayonegg 11th-Sep-2012 07:10 am (UTC)
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