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OP: It appears that this article is a satirical piece, and Pence hasn't actually said any of these things. I have changed the tags to reflect this. Mods, should I take this post down? Please advise.

Mike Pence Opposes Word ‘Vice’ On Religious Grounds, Doesn’t Want To Be Called Vice Presidential Candidate

Mike Pence, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s running mate, told the news media at a press conference Thursday that he no longer wants to be called a vice presidential candidate.

The Indiana governor, an evangelical Christian, explained that he opposes the word “vice” on religious grounds. Pence said that the Bible has strict prohibitions against vice. He said the word “vice” means, among other things, “immoral” or “wicked behavior.”

“That’s not who I am, and that’s not who I want people to think I am,” he said. “I can’t in good faith willingly condone a word I find deplorable without violating my Christian principles.”Read more...Collapse )

Source: HuffPost
OP: Remember that anti-LGBTQ event in Orlando that Rubio was slated to speak at? Drumpf was there, too!

WASHINGTON ― [Bolting-Hutch of Beastliness] has said he’s the best ally to the LGBT community in this election cycle. The best, just the greatest. All you have to do is “ask the gays” themselves, he’s said.

But he probably didn’t say that Thursday as he surrounded himself with some of the nation’s most extreme anti-gay activists.

[Dishonest Satan] headlined a Pastors and Pews event in Orlando sponsored by American Renewal Project ― a Jerry Falwell Jr. creation ― that brought together hundreds of evangelical pastors who want to shape public policy. [Filthy Bung] shared the stage with a mix of conservative religious leaders who say gay people, in one way or another, are taking the nation on a one-way trip to hell.

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Source: HuffPost

Good job, [Scurvy, Old, Filthy, Scurry Lord], I'm sure this will get you LOADS of votes!

ETA to substitute Shakespearean insults for all occurrences of [Odoriferous Stench]'s name, because I forgot to do it originally.
This is the first time the justices have entered this nationwide debate

Gavin Grimm is at the center of a Virginia case on transgender bathroom access.

WASHINGTON ― The Supreme Court on Wednesday put on hold a judge’s order that would have allowed a transgender student to use the boys’ restroom at his local high school in Virginia.

Gavin Grimm, the 17-year-old at the center of the case, won a significant appeals ruling in April that deferred to the federal government’s interpretation of Title IX, a federal law that bars school districts from discriminating on the basis of sex but doesn’t explicitly provide gender identity protections.

As a result of that decision, a federal judge in June ordered the Gloucester County School board to allow Grimm, who is now a senior in high school, to use the boys’ bathroom in the coming school year. The teen sued after the district instituted a policy mandating students use the bathroom that corresponds with the sex on their birth certificates.

But after an unsuccessful bid to block the order, the school district asked the Supreme Court to intervene in an emergency fashion while it sought a more formal appeal ― a process that could take months.

Even though the court is currently on recess for the summer, five justices agreed to the request — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Anthony Kennedy, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Stephen Breyer ― but didn’t provide a reasoning for their move.

Of these, Breyer’s vote may come as a surprise to advocates, as the justice often sides with the court’s liberal wing. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan would’ve left the order in favor of Grimm in place.

As if to explain his vote, Breyer wrote a brief concurrence to say that he joined his more conservative colleagues “to preserve the status quo” and because the court is currently not in session.

“I vote to grant the application as a courtesy,” Breyer wrote.

Although the court hasn’t formally added this case to its docket, this is the first time the Supreme Court enters the controversy of bathroom access in public spaces for transgender people.

Grimm’s case could be a linchpin on this front, even as other states and localities face off with the federal government over whether existing federal civil rights statutes shield trans individuals from discrimination in education and employment settings.

Among the issues that are central to the Grimm case and similar disputes in North Carolina and elsewhere is whether the Obama administration acted lawfully in its interpretation of Title IX, which prohibits certain kinds of discrimination against students by state and local schools receiving federal funding.

By Cristian Farias. Posted 08/03/2016 05:43 pm ET.


Day 4: Make America One Again

Mijente, a group for Latinos who aim to fight xenophobia, staged a “wall off Trump” protest in Cleveland.

CLEVELAND — The final day of the Republican National Convention began with Ted Cruz on the defensive after he declined to endorse Donald J. Trump during his speech Wednesday night. On Thursday night, Mr. Trump’s address is the main event. A few things to watch for on the final day:

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Ugh, Falwell. I already had to hear that fucknugget give an endorsement speech for Trump once (even though he claimed it wasn't an endorsement...yeah fucking right).
A replica of Noah's Ark has been built in the rolling hills of northern Kentucky and it is, quite literally, of biblical proportions. The wood structure stands seven stories high and is the length of 1 1/2 football fields.

"The Bible indicates the original Ark was 300 cubits, using the Hebrew royal cubit that calculates in modern-day terms to 510 feet long," says Mark Looey, a co-founder of Answers in Genesis, the Christian ministry that built the attraction. It's the same group that opened the Creation Museum in 2007 in Petersburg, Ky., which promotes a literal interpretation of the Bible and other teachings: that planet Earth is only 6,000 years old and that man lived alongside dinosaurs.

The ark attraction has been mired in controversy for years, and though Answers in Genesis promises jobs and increased tourism to a region in desperate need of an economic boost, for many who live there, it's very much a mixed blessing.

'After The Flash And Bang'

The ark offers three decks of exhibits so sophisticated, you might think you stepped into Disney World.

There are no live animals on the ark, though. "There's a zoo out back for them," Looey says. Instead, the ark will be filled with lifelike models of animals — including dinosaurs and a pair of unicorns — designed by many of the people who also made exhibits for the Creation Museum.

The ark doesn't float either. Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis and Ark Encounter president and CEO, says it wasn't built to float. "We built it as a reminder, a reminder in regard to God's word and the account of Noah and the flood," he says.

It cost $100 million to build and is expected to draw up to 2 million visitors a year along with millions in tourism revenue, according to what the ministry calls an independent study. Looey says they've already hired over 300 staff and hundreds more jobs are on the way when the other phases — including a walled city and a replica of the Tower of Babel — are completed.

Many in Williamstown, Ky., the small town that sits right across Interstate 75 from the attraction, are waiting for it to open with bated breath. The town — the rural seat of Grant County, Ky., — has a population of about 4,000. It's a middle-class bedroom community right between Cincinnati and Lexington, Ky.

Williamstown Mayor Rick Skinner, an enthusiastic supporter of the attraction, says the town has already upgraded its electricity and built a new water treatment plant. Downtown is also getting a face-lift. On Main Street, many new stores have already opened up while others are in the process of being renovated. Before news of the Ark Encounter coming to town, the old brick buildings that lined Main Street were mostly vacant.

Local lawyer Bill Adkins says when the recession hit Williamstown, it hit hard. He remembers sitting in foreclosure settlements almost every week.

According to the study cited by Answers in Genesis, the ark's economic impact will be about $4 billion over the next decade. But Adkins is skeptical.

"We've not seen the hotels, we've not seen the restaurants coming in to support this attraction," he says. "I think a lot of people are waiting to invest because they want to see if after the flash and bang of the opening, what happens next."

Answers in Genesis points to the success of the Creation Museum as proof of the ark's potential. The ministry says the museum gets 300,000 visitors a year and that its generated revenue has exceeded expectations, though they would not provide numbers.

Then there are controversies around the project, provoking debate over separation of church and state. The state withdrew tax incentives it had awarded Answers in Genesis, in part, because the ministry refused to pledge that it would not discriminate on the basis of religion in its hiring. The state said the project had evolved from a tourism attraction to an extension of the ministry.

Then there are controversies around the project, provoking debate over separation of church and state. The state withdrew tax incentives it had awarded Answers in Genesis, in part, because the ministry refused to pledge that it would not discriminate on the basis of religion in its hiring. The state said the project had evolved from a tourism attraction to an extension of the ministry.

The tax breaks were later reinstated after Answers in Genesis, which said it had the right to hire on the basis of religion, sued in federal court and won.

Adkins is uncomfortable with the tax breaks worth up to $18 million the ministry is getting from the state. Answers in Genesis is considered a tax-exempt church and critics of the ark project have said that getting tax breaks amounts to "double dipping."

It also just doesn't sit well with him that job applicants must adhere to the ministry's rigid moral code and belief system.

"That one would have to subjugate their own beliefs to comply with that of an employer," he says, "that seems very intrusive and very oppressive to me.

A federal judge earlier this year ruled that Answers in Genesis, as a religious group, has a right to restrict its hiring.

Resident Jay Novarra is irked at local leaders. Along with providing the project with free land, Williamstown also gave Answers in Genesis $62 million in bonds. The ministry says the town will not be on the hook for those.

As a farmer, Novarra is worried about the price of water going up since the town is also providing water to the ark.

"We do have a lot of people who make a living farming and you start adding to the price we have to pay to raise our food, then you're definitely impacting farmers," she says. "And I have to ask myself: What is that farmer getting out of it?"

Mayor Skinner says there is no contingency plan. They're putting all their eggs in one basket — kind of like Noah.


Official identity of assailants still unknown after incident at Mayonhika, an ancient site where stone structures were toppled and offerings tossed about

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... and the conservative crowd laughed.

Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) joked at a conservative Christian event on Friday that he prays President Barack Obama’s days will be “few.”

The first-term senator began his opening statement at the Faith & Freedom Coalition’s Road to Majority conference by telling attendees to pray for Obama. With a smirk, Perdue said, “We should pray like Psalms 109:8 says. It says: ‘Let his days be few and let another have his office.’”

The large crowd laughed.

Perdue did not continue reciting the words, but Psalm 109 is a death wish for one of David’s enemies.

It goes on: “Let his children be fatherless; and his wife a widow. Let his children wander about and beg; and let them seek sustenance far from their ruined homes. Let the creditor seize all that he has; and let strangers plunder the product of his labor. Let there be none to extend lovingkindness to him; nor any to be gracious to his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; in a following generation let their name be blotted out.”

Caroline Vanvick, a spokeswoman for Perdue, issued the following response:

"Senator Perdue said we are called to pray for our country, for our leaders, and for our president. He in no way wishes harm towards our president and everyone in the room understood that. However, we should add the media to our prayer list because they are pushing a narrative to create controversy and that is exactly what the American people are tired of."

The Christian Science Monitor noted that conservatives have used this verse in the past to talk about the end of Obama’s days in office.

By Amber Ferguson, The Huffington Post. 06/10/2016 01:37 pm ET.

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Gov. Bill Haslam vetoed a bill that would have made the Bible the official state book

Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) vetoed a bill that would have made the Bible his state’s official book.

On April 5, the state Senate voted 19-8 to approve a bill making the Bible the state book.
Haslam expressed “some personal reservations” about the bill, according to The Tennessean.

In a letter sent Monday to Tennessee House Speaker Beth Harwell (R), Haslam explained his veto, saying he felt the bill “trivializes the Bible.”

“If we believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, then we shouldn’t be recognizing it only as a book of historical and economic significance,” he wrote, citing an argument used by proponents of the bill for why the proposal wasn’t religious in nature.

Haslam noted that he disagrees “with those who are trying to drive religion out of the public square,” but said it’d be a violation of both the Tennessee and U.S. Constitutions to make a sacred text the official state book.

“Our founders recognized that when the church and state were combined, it was the church that suffered in the long run,” he wrote.

Efforts are already underway in the state legislature to overturn Haslam’s veto.

The Tennessee House of Representatives passed a similar bill in 2015 that was ultimately stalled. Top state officials expressed hesitation over that proposal, including Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey (R) and Attorney General Herbert Slatery (R), who said a similar bill would be seen as “an endorsement of religion.”

By Paige Lavender, Senior Politics Editor, The Huffington Post. 04/14/2016 06:13 pm ET.

Many states have considered bills that enable discrimination against the LGBT community, but Mississippi’s proposed legislation is perhaps the most explicit in this regard. HB 1523 spells out in storied detail all of the different ways that a person should be able to mistreat people for being LGBT without consequences from the government.

The bill does not pretend to be neutral; it only protects people with anti-LGBT religious beliefs and nobody else:

The sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this act are the belief or conviction that:

(a) Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman;
(b) Sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage; and
(c) Male (man) or female (woman) refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy and genetics at time of birth.

Assessing what kind of discriminatory situations this would enable is easy, because the bill spells those out as well. So long as individuals are motivated by “a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction,” any of the following behaviors would have the endorsement of the government:

Religious organizations can decline to solemnize any marriage or provide any services related to recognizing that marriage.
Religious organizations can refuse to hire, fire, and discipline employees for violating the organization’s religious beliefs.
Religious organizations can choose not to sell, rent, or otherwise provide shelter.
Religious organizations that provide foster or adoptive services can decline service without risking their state subsidies.
Any foster or adoptive parent can impose their religious beliefs on their children.
Any person can choose not to provide treatment, counseling, or surgery related to gender transition or same-sex parenting.
Any person (including any business) can choose not to provide services for any marriage ceremony or occasion that involves recognizing a marriage, including:
Disc-Jockey Services
Wedding Planning
Floral Arrangements
Dress Making
Cake or Pastry Artistry
Assembly-Hall or Other Wedding-Venue Rentals
Limousine or Other Car-Service Rentals
Jewelry Sales And Services
Any person can establish “sex-specific standards or policies concerning employee or student dress or grooming,” and can manage the access of restrooms and other sex-segregated facilities.
Any state employee can openly express their beliefs without consequence.
Any state employee can choose not to authorize or license legal marriages by recusing themselves from those duties.

Protect Thy Neighbor, a project of Americans United for Separate of Church and State, outlines several hypotheticals for how this discrimination might play out — including impacts beyond the LGBT community. For example, an adoption agency could refuse to place a child with a family if the parents lived together before they were married. A counselor could refuse to help an LGBT teen who called a suicide hotline. A car rental agency could refuse to rent a car to a same-sex couple for use on their honeymoon. And a corporation could fire a woman for wearing pants (though this would likely still be illegal under Title VII of the federal Civil Rights Act).

Anybody who takes advantage of any of these opportunities to discriminate would be protected from any tax penalty, any loss of contract or grant, any loss of benefit, any fine or penalty, any license or certification, any custody award or agreement, or any setback in employment.

Furthermore, these protections extend even if the disagreement does not involve the government as a party. In other words, anybody can cite their religious beliefs to justify their discriminatory behavior if sued by the victims of that discrimination. When they do, they are entitled not only to victory in court, but compensatory damages as well.

Currently, no city in Mississippi has banned anti-LGBT discrimination under law, but several have at least passed resolutions opposing such discrimination, including Jackson, Waveland, Bay St. Louis, Greenville, Magnolia, Oxford, and Hattiesburg. Should any of those cities ever pass enforceable laws, those laws would be voided by HB 1523, which preempts any municipal law that might conflict with it. All of the above forms of discrimination would become legal in the state no matter what laws a city passed.

This bill has already made significant progress through the Mississippi legislature. The House approved it last month by an 80-39 vote and the Senate is taking it up Wednesday.

UPDATE MAR 30, 2016 8:55 PM
The Mississippi Senate approved the bill Wednesday evening by a vote of 31-17. It now returns to the House for concurrence with an amendment.

Virginia Governor Vetoes 'Religious Exemption' Bill

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe vetoed legislation Wednesday aimed at protecting opponents of same-sex marriage, saying it would legalize discrimination of the LGBT community and hurt the state's economy.

"We cannot have fear and persecution, people being demonized, we're not going to tolerate that," McAuliffe, a Democrat, said as he signed the veto during his monthly appearance on radio station WTOP.

The measure would prohibit the state from punishing religious groups that refuse services related to gay marriages. Republican supporters said it would protect people expressing their sincerely held religious beliefs.

McAuliffe's veto comes shortly after GOP-backed legislation related to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights in other southern states drew national condemnation from corporate America and civil rights groups.

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gotta say i wasn't expecting v much w mcaulliffe. he was pretty much a friend / donor to the clintons but he has done a good job of governing so far although most of it is telling the republican side "hell no you aren't"
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