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Voting Machine Changing Barack Obama votes to Mitt Romney's

4:21 pm - 11/06/2012
A Pennsylvania voting machine has been removed after it was found turning votes for President Obama into a vote for Romney. Internet user, centralpavote, recorded the malfunction on his smartphone and uploaded the video to popular content aggregator, Reddit.com. The posting shot to instant fame (with 4800 ‘up votes’ on Reddit as of the time of this writing), and MSNBC confirms that the machine has since been taken out of service.

It’s not clear from the video if this was a hacking attempt, or a simple software error. On the electronic ballot, Obama’s name is right next to Mitt Romney’s, and and screen might just be misreading where the finger is touching by about an inch. Either way, the malfunction is troubling:

muppetfromhell 6th-Nov-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
This is one where I'll buy the malfunctioning argument over a conspiracy theory- you'd have to be an idiot to use that as an attempt to doctor it, and also an idiot not to notice it in the moment.

Still disturbing though.
saeto15 6th-Nov-2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it seems to just be a malfunction on this one machine. I keep seeing people posting about voting machines registering the wrong vote, but it's always about this particular one. There hasn't been any evidence (that I've seen, anyway) of any other machines malfunctioning like this.
angi_is_altered 6th-Nov-2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
I voted a little bit ago and I didn't vote straight ticket and made sure to vote for Obama specifically. There was no line what so ever. So nice!
layweed 6th-Nov-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
Are these also the machines with no paper trail? Because YAY!
layweed 6th-Nov-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
either way hopefully it as caught before too many votes were mis-counted. Well, or before ANY votes were miscounted, but I don't really have that kind of faith in machines.
kishmet 8th-Nov-2012 01:07 am (UTC)
I was seriously shocked when I learned some of the machines don't do printouts. Ours (I was an election judge in IL) print out where the voters themselves could look and verify their choices on paper plus we printed out a bunch for the election commission, to go on the polling place's door etc.
moonbladem 6th-Nov-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
If there's one machine, there'll be others. And what happens to the people who have already voted on faulty machines like this? Are their votes thrown out? This is worrisome.
roseofjuly 6th-Nov-2012 11:41 pm (UTC)
Especially in Pennsylvania!
caterfree10 6th-Nov-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that's my major concern. Is there any way to get a hold of these people and fix their votes if needed? What IS the procedure for dealing with these votes in the case of glitches like this? I can't find information anywhere. ARGH, this is why I like IN's pen and paper voting, jfc.
layweed 6th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
Same here, though it's not that I hate Texas's electronic voting machines, I just wish the damn things had some sort of paper trail, like a printout of exactly who you voted for, the time/location/whatever of the polling station, etc.

Edited at 2012-11-06 11:51 pm (UTC)
svtstarlight 7th-Nov-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
My friend told me there was a machine in Las Vegas changing votes the other way (for Obama)... We got into a little discussion and basically I think we had to agree to disagree that things were possibly a bit...suspicious. Altho she did agree with me that when there are international observers being sent in to monitor things, that the situation is seriously fucked up.

ohmiya_sg 7th-Nov-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
Touch machines (any kind of machine, not just voting) often do this. I've had a lot of trouble with the self-checkout machines at the grocery store because of this. It's not like they change it after you submit your vote, so as long as you look at what's been checked, you can tell an official it's not working correctly or press lower to get your vote in.
myrrhmade 7th-Nov-2012 01:03 am (UTC)
This scares the purple fuck out of me.
ebay313 7th-Nov-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
From what I read earlier the person tried touching in various places without luck. Clicking Romney selected Romney, clicking right on Obama selected Romney, clicking near the bottom of Obama selected Romney, and clicking Jill Stein (one candidate below Obama) selected Jill Stein. I've used touchscreens before that were off and you basically had to click below what you wanted to get it to register, but if that was the case here, clicking where Jill Stein was should have selected Obama, not Jill Stein.

And I'm sure there are plenty of people who would not notice that the wrong box was highlighted.
corinn 7th-Nov-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
The YouTube description of the vid said:

I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney. Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine.
moonbladem 7th-Nov-2012 02:44 am (UTC)
Definitely suspicious. I think some of the machines were tampered with. I hope people are alert enough to notice that when they select Obama, Romney is actually highlighted.
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