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NRA Spokesasshole sticks to his guns (in every sense of the word)

1:54 pm - 12/23/2012
NRA chief: If putting armed police in schools is crazy, 'then call me crazy'

By Tom Curry, NBC News national affairs writer

Updated 10:50 a.m. ET: On NBC’s Meet the Press, National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre on Sunday refused to support new gun control legislation and maintained his support for putting armed guards and police in schools in response to the Dec. 14 school shootings in Newtown, Conn.

“If it’s crazy to call for putting police in and securing our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy,” LaPierre told NBC’s David Gregory. “I think the American people think it’s crazy not to do it. It’s the one thing that would keep people safe and the NRA is going try to do that.”

He added that the United States is now spending $2 billion to train police officers in Iraq and asked why federal funds could not be spent to train school guards to protect schools in the United States.

Asked about restricting the size of ammunition magazine or clips, LaPierre said, “I don’t believe that’s going to make one difference. There are so many different ways to evade that, even if you had that. You had that for 10 years when (Sen.) Dianne Feinstein passed that ban in ’94. It was on the books. Columbine occurred right in the middle of it – it didn’t make any difference.”

Feinstein, D-Calif., was the author of the 1994 ban on certain types of semiautomatic firearms which expired in 2004. She has announced that she will introduce new legislation early next year. Semiautomatic firearms, including semiautomatic weapons sometimes called “assault weapons,” fire one round per pull of the trigger.

“I know there’s a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens,” LaPierre said, but he insisted that an armed guard might have been able to stop Adam Lanza, the killer in Connecticut.

“If I’m a mom or a dad and I’m dropping my child off at school I’d feel a whole lot safer” if there were trained armed security guards or police protecting the school from people such as Lanza, LaPierre said, although he conceded that “nothing is perfect” as a deterrent against crime.

LaPierre also said, “We have a mental health system in this country that has completely and totally collapsed. We have no national database of these lunatics” and complained that de-institutionalization of the mentally ill had put too many dangerous people on the streets of America. “We have a completely cracked mentally ill system that’s got these monsters walking the streets,” LaPierre said.

And he said many states do not put their records of those adjudicated to be mentally ill into the national instant check system that is designed to screen out convicted criminals and the mentally ill from buying guns.

The NRA CEO also argued that the federal government had invested far too little effort into enforcing the longstanding federal law that makes it illegal for convicted felons to possess guns. The federal effort to enforce existing restrictions on gun possession, he said, is “pitiful.”

He said, “If you want to control violent criminals, take them off the street.”

But he firmly opposed curbs on private gun sales and contended that the advocates of stringent restrictions on such sales want to put “every gun sale under the thumb of the federal government.”

LaPierre called Feinstein’s bill “a phony piece of legislation” which he predicted would not become law.

President Barack Obama has tasked Vice President Joe Biden with the job of consulting with members of the Cabinet and outside organizations to come up with legislative proposals by next month.

When asked about this initiative, LaPierre said, “if it’s a panel that’s just going to be made up of a bunch of people that for the past 20 years has been trying to destroy the Second Amendment, I’m not interested in sitting on that panel…. The NRA is not going to let people lose the Second Amendment in this country.”

Following LaPierre on Meet the Press, Sen. Charles Schumer, D- N.Y., said that the NRA leader is “so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually helps the cause of us passing sensible gun legislation in the Congress…. He is so doctrinaire and so adamant that I believe gun owners turn against him as well.”

Schumer said that LaPierre believes “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good gun with a gun. What about trying to stop the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place? That’s common sense. Most Americans agree with it.”

But Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., said killers such as Lanza were “non-traditional criminals… people who are not wired right for some reason. And I don’t know if there’s anything Lindsey Graham can do in the Senate to stop mass murder from somebody that’s hell bent on doing crazy things” -- apart from better security in schools. The South Carolina Republican also called for getting “mass murders off the streets before they act, by better mental health detection.”

Graham said that while he was out Christmas shopping in South Carolina this weekend, people “have come up to me (and said) ‘Please don’t let the government take my guns away.’ And I’m going to stand against the assault (weapons) ban because it didn’t work before and it won’t work in the future.”

LaPierre’s appearance on Meet the Press followed the strong reaction over his defiant stand during a Friday press briefing about the NRA’s response to the Connecticut school shootings.

Amid a national debate over what security measures school administrators should take to ensure the safety of students, gun-control advocates reacted with disbelief Friday to LaPierre’s call for armed guards in every school and his blaming of Hollywood films, video games, and popular music for school shootings such as the one in Connecticut.

How firmly the NRA’s allies in Congress will oppose any new legislative initiatives from Obama, Feinstein or others remains an open question.

In a test of the NRA’s legislative influence, the House of Representatives late last year passed the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, which has not yet been acted on by the Senate.

In the House vote, 229 Republicans and 43 Democrats voted for the NRA-backed bill.

The House bill allows a person with a photo identification card and a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in one state to carry a concealed handgun in another state in accordance with the restrictions of that second state.

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Uhhhh, Mr. LaPierreBullshit-Spewing Douche Rocket? I don't think most of us would call you crazy. I think we'd pick somewhat different terms. Ones like"callous, arrogant, insensitive, inhuman, unfeeling, sociopathic douchebag." Also, "disgusting waste of space/skin/air/[fill in the blank with term of your choice]." That sort of thing.
blackjedii 23rd-Dec-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
This isn't even about "MY GUNS! Guns protect people!"
It's not even about "SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!"

It is a great idea to arm teachers.

Because someone would have to buy all those guns to do so.

And buying guns == more customers. More customers == more income.

In other words, the Almighty Dollar is at work yet again. :/
kyra_neko_rei 23rd-Dec-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
I think you fucking called it.
baka_tenshi 24th-Dec-2012 12:24 am (UTC)
hinoema 24th-Dec-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
I can't believe his motivation isn't blatantly obvious to everyone. He's protecting his market share, to hell with the consequences, or lost lives.
wrestlingdog 24th-Dec-2012 02:09 pm (UTC)
doverz 23rd-Dec-2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah, absolutely do not believe him that he gives a damn about mental health and helping people who are mentally ill.

Edited at 2012-12-23 09:17 pm (UTC)
angelus7988 24th-Dec-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
I never would have guessed, what with him calling the mentally ill monsters and lunatics. Color me shocked.
thepuddingcook 23rd-Dec-2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
So we'll have the "best protected" kids reading out of outdated textbooks 50 to a room and doing math at a first grade level in high school.

layweed 23rd-Dec-2012 09:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, yeah. Today's Sunday, isn't it? Good thing I left the house at 9am so I wasn't tempted to turn on the tv and watch any Sunday talk shows.
a_phoenixdragon 23rd-Dec-2012 09:59 pm (UTC)
Nobody wants to take your guns away, asshat. Second Amendment rights aren't even in question. It is about taking ASSAULT WEAPONS off the streets. The solution is NOT MORE GUNS. Seriously, if you worked with the government on this and helped come up with an actual solution, maybe people would stop associating the NRA with the lunatic fringe. Frigging srsly...

Edited at 2012-12-23 10:00 pm (UTC)
hinoema 24th-Dec-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
Plus the second amendment specifically says the right to bear arms is to allow for a WELL REGULATED MILITIA. They loe to forget that part.
ladyjj 23rd-Dec-2012 10:09 pm (UTC)

This fool.
celtic_thistle 23rd-Dec-2012 10:18 pm (UTC)
Columbine High School and VA Tech HAD armed guards, you fucking fool. Plus, FORT FUCKING HOOD HAPPENED.
moonshaz 23rd-Dec-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah, David Gregory tried to point that out about, Columbine and VA Tech, but LaPierre just brushed that whole issue away and refused to address it. Just like he brushed away every other comment or question that didn't match up with the talking points crap he was there to spout. It was absolutely revolting.

[Edited to add additional snark.]

Edited at 2012-12-23 11:22 pm (UTC)
callmetothejedi 23rd-Dec-2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
That's what I was thinking when I watched Meet the Press this morning. :-/
baka_tenshi 24th-Dec-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
fucking seriously. i've lived in fort hood for a combination of 10 years of my life - THAT SHIT IS FUCKING GUARDED.

fuck this asswipe.
silver_apples 23rd-Dec-2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
His use of the words "crazy", "lunatics", and "monsters" makes me think he is not the best person to be talking about mental health care reform.

It's nice to know, though, that mentally ill people only buy guns after being diagnosed and only ever use their own, legally purchased guns. Otherwise, we would need to cross-check the national registry of mentally ill people with a national registry of gun owners to see if the mentally ill person already has access to firearms, and then take them away. And that would be an invasion of privacy and violation of the Second Amendment.
baka_tenshi 24th-Dec-2012 12:23 am (UTC)
NRA never cared about people other than themselves (children and especially the mentally ill) - all they care about is the fucking dollar.
angelus7988 24th-Dec-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
LaPierre also said, “We have a mental health system in this country that has completely and totally collapsed. We have no national database of these lunatics” and complained that de-institutionalization of the mentally ill had put too many dangerous people on the streets of America. “We have a completely cracked mentally ill system that’s got these monsters walking the streets,” LaPierre said.

As one such "monster," eat shit and die in a fire!

EDIT: Just to clarify, I wasn't addressing that to you, OP.

Edited at 2012-12-24 01:43 am (UTC)
hinoema 24th-Dec-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
IKR? Where's that 'how to win friends' tag when you need it? This guy sure knows how to do that!
yooperchild 24th-Dec-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
This is ridiculous to even talk about, because as a teacher I get YEARLY affirms that I'm paid too much, that I shouldn't want silly things like paper, pencils or books for my classroom, that my insurance plan is TOO good, that bigger class sizes are fine, etc, etc, etc.

This guy means to tell me that the same, "MAH TAX DOLLAS!!!" group that argues about every little thing is going to foot the bill for armed guard to be in my school every single day? Really?

(also, I've worked in a neighborhood that due to gangs/drugs/violence we had a police officer stationed in the school. It made the kids feel like everyone thought they were hoodlums...something they would freely mention. It made the teachers feel like we were working in a prison. And guess what? There was still gangs/drugs and violence.)
hinoema 24th-Dec-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
More teachers need to speak up on this- specifically to tell the NRA to STFD.
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yooperchild 24th-Dec-2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
That's the other part. I have a metal cabinet I could lock, but anyone could smash it open that's it.
moonbladem 24th-Dec-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
OMG shut the freaking hell up. Who's going to pay for all these armed guards at every single school? The NRA? The gun manufacturers? No? Then sit the hell down you asswipe. Every time I see you spewing your crap on TV I want to punch you in the nose... repeatedly.
star_maple 24th-Dec-2012 09:35 am (UTC)
Okay, how about this? Anyone can own whatever and however many kinds of guns they want. But every time someone dies of a gun related death in the US, a $1 tax will be levied for each firearm. That will come to about $20,000 a year per gun (according to Wikipedia, I think). That spreads the pain of losing a citizen around.

I think suddenly gun owners might see the sense in regulating and licensing guns (legislating locking them up, taking classes, background checks, small magazine capacities, etc.) if they took a hit for each citizen that lost their life to one.
omgangiepants 25th-Dec-2012 05:12 am (UTC)
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