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GOP Congressman: Women In Infantry Roles Could ‘Impair’ Missions Because Of Their ‘Nature’

10:37 am - 01/09/2013
GOP Congressman: Women In Infantry Roles Could ‘Impair’ Missions Because Of Their ‘Nature’

Women are physically unfit to serve in combat, Rep. Tom Cotton (R-AR) claimed during a Tuesday appearance on the Laura Ingraham radio show. Cotton, who was last seen suggesting that Iraq might have orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, recognized female accomplishments in non-infantry combat roles like helicopter pilot and that women have fought and performed well in Iraq and Afghanistan. But Cotton nonetheless concludes that women should be legally prohibited from competing with men for infantry combat positions:

To have women serving in infantry, though, could impair the mission-essential tasks of those units. And that’s been proven in study after study, it’s nature, upper body strength, and physical movements, and speed, and endurance, and so forth.


Cotton appears to assume that allowing women to serve in the infantry would necessitate a double standard in physical testing for male and female soldiers, but that’s not so. A Marine pilot program training women as combat officers subjects them to the same grueling physical training as their male classmates. Though the two women in that program didn’t pass (along with 26 of the 107 men enrolled in the course), many women are more than physically capable of performing in combat roles. Indeed, a survey of several NATO allies that allowed women in “frontline roles” in Afghanistan found that female officers caused “no significant problems,” and actually performed better than their male counterparts in intelligence-gathering roles. Preventing women who pass the same physical tests as their male counterparts from serving in the combat infantry is sexism, plain and simple.

When the Department of Defense loosened its prohibition on women in combat in early 2012, then-Presidential candidate Rick Santorum (R-PA) said he had “concerns” about women serving in combat roles because of “the emotions that were involved.”


lolcatielol 9th-Jan-2013 10:41 pm (UTC)
Do these men not realize that any women in infantry roles will have gone through everything that a man does? If they don't think training is enough to make women fit for infantry, then it must not be enough for the men. Unless of course this is just men being scared that women are realizing that they can do everything a man can do. But I wouldn't ever accuse a male representative of being sexist. That would just be silly.
martyfan 9th-Jan-2013 10:49 pm (UTC)
Because, you know, men are NEVER short or physically weaker than other men, or slower, or heavier, or anything else than 100% physically perfect. NO MAN EVER.
scolaro 9th-Jan-2013 11:00 pm (UTC)
Rick Santorum (R-PA) said he had “concerns” about women serving in combat roles because of “the emotions that were involved.”

It's their choice. If you're too emotionally involved, stay out of the debate.
ayarane 9th-Jan-2013 11:29 pm (UTC)
I don't get why we're still hand-wringing over letting women into combat roles. I mean, we have female police officers (including SWAT), don't we? o_O
xayeidemon 9th-Jan-2013 11:48 pm (UTC)

Edited at 2013-01-09 11:51 pm (UTC)
zinnia_rose 10th-Jan-2013 12:06 am (UTC)
I dare this assbag to spout some of this bullshit to an actual female soldier (or better yet, a group of them). I bet that would go over real well.

Edited at 2013-01-10 12:07 am (UTC)
kyra_neko_rei 10th-Jan-2013 12:13 am (UTC)
I hope when this shitstain dies, he gets to the afterlife and meets an army of every woman ever to fight in uniform or out of it, including Boudicca, Hua Mulan, Vishpala, Queen Alissar of Carthage, Zabibe and the women of her army, Trung Trac and Trung Nhi, and, what the hell, Honor Harrington (I know, she's fictional, but this is Heaven so that's an exceedingly minor detail).

And I hope they all systematically kick his ass until he realizes just how wrong he is.
ginger_maya 10th-Jan-2013 12:39 am (UTC)
Do I believe that women might have harder time passing the physical tests? Actually I do. That said, to stop those women who DO pass the tests from serving because emoshunz is just plain ridiculous and so very 19th century of them. So fuck them.
kishmet 10th-Jan-2013 12:55 am (UTC)
I can't even

Is it really that difficult for these guys to understand that soldiers should be assessed based on their capabilities rather than generalities? But then they'll always see women as women first, people second, instead of comparing everyone equally and noting that plenty of women beat out plenty of men when it comes to physical and mental fitness. jfc man

And of course Santorum's remark is plain old bullshit based on the idea that women are ~delicate emotional little flowers~ and men are apparently killing machines. I'm sure glad his dim view of pretty much everyone doesn't match up with reality.
astra_aurora 10th-Jan-2013 01:15 am (UTC)
Fuck this guy so much.
bluebombardier 10th-Jan-2013 02:36 am (UTC)

I wish to dispel the notion that women are “more emotional.” I don’t think we are. I think that the emotions women stereotypically express are what men call “emotions,” and the emotions that men typically express are somehow considered by men to be something else.

This is incorrect. Anger? EMOTION. Hate? EMOTION. Resorting to violence? EMOTIONAL OUTBURST. An irrational need to be correct when all the evidence is against you? Pretty sure that’s an emotion. Resorting to shouting really loudly when you don’t like the other person’s point of view? That’s called “being too emotional to engage in a rational discussion.”

Having emotions isn't a female thing; it's a human thing. I'd rather not have soldiers who are mindless killing machines, thanks.

Edited at 2013-01-10 02:36 am (UTC)
ohmiya_sg 10th-Jan-2013 05:53 am (UTC)
I am feeling some male emotions right now...
caketime 10th-Jan-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link, it was a great read!
alexvdl 10th-Jan-2013 03:04 am (UTC)
So, I call bullshit. And I call bullshit as a combat arms soldier who nine months ago returned from Afghanistan, where our Troop traded a platoon of our Cav Scouts with the reserve unit from Philadelphia's platoon of mixed gender MPs. Guess what? The MPs did the exact same shit that we did. They went and pulled patrols, the took contact, they hit IEDs, they pulled security for EOD when they went to clear UXO and IEDs, etc. All of it. Wait. I take it back. The females didn't pull tower duty. But that's because the first night they DID pull tower duty, SOG had to physically remove a dude from creeping on one of the female soldiers after she told him to get the hell out of her tower.

There isn't a damn Combat Arms related task that can't be achieved by a suitably motivated and trained female. Not humping the .50 cal or Mark 19, not traversing the turret on a MATV in order to accurately respond with counterfire, not firing a Javelin missile, and not carrying squad mate to the Casualty Collection Point for medical care. In fact, most of the heavy weapons were carried by female soldiers because they were the ones best qualified to use them. It caused no amount of aggravation for some of my fellow soldiers that the 5 foot flat in boots Specialist could handle the SAW or 149b better than any of the Scouts.
carmy_w 10th-Jan-2013 10:18 pm (UTC)
*standing ovation*

Well said!

And I hope to hell that the dude creeping up on that female soldier got his ass handed to him, at least legally (court martial, demerit/demotion, whatever), if not physically.

Edited at 2013-01-10 10:20 pm (UTC)
executivehpfan 10th-Jan-2013 03:58 am (UTC)

Whatever you say, jackass.
keeperofthekeys 10th-Jan-2013 04:23 am (UTC)
right-click adding to my janeway gif collection
recorded 10th-Jan-2013 05:03 am (UTC)
On a positive note, I saw an advertisement featuring women in the military today!
lizzy_someone 10th-Jan-2013 07:37 am (UTC)
Rick Santorum (R-PA) said he had “concerns” about women serving in combat roles because of “the emotions that were involved."

Right, because as we all know, men don't have emotions. Men are MANLY IMPREGNABLE FORTRESSES DEVOID OF HUMAN FEELING, RAWR!! Grow the fuck up, Santorum.
carmy_w 10th-Jan-2013 10:16 pm (UTC)
I'd really like for a few female members of the various armed forces to invite him to spar. Just once.

He's been in the military, he knows how to handle himself. Perhaps if he gets his ass handed to him a few times, he'll remember that he's not invincible.
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