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Washington Post: Tim Allen Claims Hollywood Conservatives Are Oppressed “Like in ’30s Germany”

11:06 am - 03/19/2017

On Jimmy Kimmel Live, actor Tim Allen admitted to attending Trump’s inauguration [WaPo] and then complained, “You gotta be real careful around here. You get beat up if you don’t believe what everybody [else] believes. This is like ’30s Germany.”

Ah, here we go again.

“Silencing” and “censorship” are common refrains among Hollywood conservatives, who are repeatedly shocked and wounded to find that people don’t like you when you advocate for the oppression of others. And if simple conservatism was actually costing them work, one might have some sympathy. Art should be able to represent the diversity of human experience, and in the U.S. that includes NRA-loving hunters, libertarians, and Republicans.

However, no one is oppressing conservatives. They’re even free to make conservative-leaning shows on major networks… a privilege that Allen himself has celebrated.

In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter last year, he spoke about playing the conservative main character on his ABC sitcom, Last Man Standing, and how the character provides an outlet for a lot of his own political views. “We’re getting away with a lot of stuff,” he said, “I’m really shocked. This is a meaner, sharper comedy than I’m used to. There’s a lot of times our very liberal writing staff will come up with stuff that even my character would say, ‘I don’t know if I can say that.’…These guys know me so well that they’re writing stuff that is exactly what I would’ve said.”

"We’re getting away with a lot."

"They’re writing stuff that is exactly what I would’ve said."

Sounds oppressive!

Allen’s conservative sitcom is now in its sixth season, and he has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame: two well-established signs of… censorship and ostracizing? Oh, wait. Clint Eastwood makes A-list films every year. Mel Gibson directed an Oscar-nominated movie this past year. Conservatives, even violent ones like Gibson, can find plenty of work in Hollywood.

Do these men still get flack for their comments? Undeniably, yes. No one is obligated to pretend your opinions are welcome or well-reasoned when they’re not. No one is even obligated to keep working with you despite those opinions–and yet, plenty of liberals in Hollywood do work with Allen, Eastwood and other right-wingers.

Allen seems to fall into a familiar trap for conservatives. They don’t want the ability to voice their opinions. (They have that already.) They want the ability to voice their opinions and be praised for them. Unlike progressives, who tend to aggrandize by imagining that they speak for the marginalized and the future, conservatives aggrandize themselves as the voice of the silent majority–saying what most people are too afraid to say, speaking up for the everyman. They like to think everyone secretly agrees with them, and when that illusion is crushed by the public response to their comments, they feel attacked.

However, the Constitution only guarantees you the right to speak. It does not give you any rights over the response to that speech. If people consistently respond poorly to what you’re saying, maybe it’s your words that are problem.

Lastly, when attending the inauguration of a man who has multiple white supremacists and reportedly card-carrying Nazis in his cabinet, maybe don’t make comparisons to ’30s Germany.

The Mary Sue
chaya just gonna put this right here19th-Mar-2017 05:42 pm (UTC)
mercystars RE: just gonna put this right here19th-Mar-2017 05:51 pm (UTC)
Yep. This coke-dealing shitbag can choke.
sabrinita Re: just gonna put this right here19th-Mar-2017 05:53 pm (UTC)
I didn't find out about this until yesterday and dayum
mercystars Re: just gonna put this right here19th-Mar-2017 05:55 pm (UTC)
Arrested with over a POUND OF COCAINE. And has what he has now. But omg, he's just so OPPRESED, YOU GUYS.
lafinjack 19th-Mar-2017 06:00 pm (UTC)
Why do you hate the free market?
lafinjack 19th-Mar-2017 06:18 pm (UTC)
Isn't that... you know... he looks like that one guy... who looks like he'd never be able to grow facial hair... whose name I clearly can't remember and I'm not sure if I've even ever seen him in anything... you know...
eveofrevolution Re: just gonna put this right here19th-Mar-2017 08:09 pm (UTC)
Why does he look kind of like Adam Driver here?
lafinjack 19th-Mar-2017 10:15 pm (UTC)
eveofrevolution 20th-Mar-2017 12:41 am (UTC)
Heh I was going to ask if that's who you meant but figured I was the only one who saw the resemblance and you were probably talking about someone else!
lafinjack 20th-Mar-2017 12:47 am (UTC)
sabrinita 19th-Mar-2017 05:51 pm (UTC)
-Sigh- Like I said over on the mothership, I'm disappointed. I'm from Michigan and grew up on Home Improvement, Toy Story, and The Santa Clause. I can't say I'm surprised though. I knew he was a Republican from hearing the jokes on Last Man Standing, but I was hoping he was deliberately playing up how asshole-ish he sounded for comedic effect. Clearly that was not the case >.>
maynardsong 19th-Mar-2017 06:03 pm (UTC)
scolaro 19th-Mar-2017 06:09 pm (UTC)
I hate it too when my childhood heroes become/turn out to be assholes.
My dad and I bonded a lot over Home Improvement. >:(
dustbunny105 19th-Mar-2017 06:05 pm (UTC)
Gosh, is it already Tool Time?
lafinjack 19th-Mar-2017 06:17 pm (UTC)
mhfromnh 19th-Mar-2017 06:41 pm (UTC)
lafinjack 19th-Mar-2017 07:25 pm (UTC)
moonshaz 19th-Mar-2017 11:31 pm (UTC)

"They don’t want the ability to voice their opinions. (They have that already.) They want the ability to voice their opinions and be praised for them."

Yeah. No. Go fuck yourself, conservatives.

bib_specialist 20th-Mar-2017 02:19 am (UTC)
I know nothing about Tim Allen and have not seen any of his TV shows or movies. Sounds to me like I haven't missed much.
lafinjack 20th-Mar-2017 02:47 am (UTC)
Some vaguely interesting and maybe even a tiny bit innovative standup leading to the same in one '90s sitcom that people grew up with, and a long career made of coasting downwards from that.
lafinjack 20th-Mar-2017 02:47 am (UTC)
Okay, and Buzz.
purpleartifice 20th-Mar-2017 02:24 am (UTC)
ioplokon 20th-Mar-2017 09:08 pm (UTC)
for about half this article i thought this was about the guy from chopped and was super weirded out. but yeah like, the social consequences of people thinking you're a dick aren't oppression.
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