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~IRAN ELECTION FALLOUT DISCUSSION/LIVE POST~

11:21 am - 06/16/2009
cursed_hyphen Obama chimes in on that Catch 2216th-Jun-2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
From HuffPo:

"Well, I think first of all, it's important to understand that although there is amazing ferment taking place in Iran, that the difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi in terms of their actual policies may not be as great as has been advertised. Either way, we were going to be dealing with an Iranian regime that has historically been hostile to the United States, that has caused some problems in the neighborhood and is pursuing nuclear weapons. And so we've got long-term interests in having them not weaponize nuclear power and stop funding organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas. And that would be true whoever came out on top in this election.

The second thing that I think's important to recognize is that the easiest way for reactionary forces inside Iran to crush reformers is to say it's the US that is encouraging those reformers. So what I've said is, `Look, it's up to the Iranian people to make a decision. We are not meddling.' And, you know, ultimately the question that the leadership in Iran has to answer is their own credibility in the eyes of the Iranian people. And when you've got 100,000 people who are out on the streets peacefully protesting, and they're having to be scattered through violence and gunshots, what that tells me is the Iranian people are not convinced of the legitimacy of the election. And my hope is that the regime responds not with violence, but with a recognition that the universal principles of peaceful expression and democracy are ones that should be affirmed. Am I optimistic that that will happen? You know, I take a wait-and-see approach. Either way, it's important for the United States to engage in the tough diplomacy around those permanent security concerns that we have--nuclear weapons, funding of terrorism. That's not going to go away, and I think it's important for us to make sure that we've reached out."

southern_shrimp Re: Obama chimes in on that Catch 2216th-Jun-2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
I love him, so so so much.
flight__ 16th-Jun-2009 09:58 pm (UTC)


Presumably from today. That's Naghshe Jahan Square.
cursed_hyphen 16th-Jun-2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
Damn.
carverhawke For those who still can't access Twitter.16th-Jun-2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
persiankiwii cannot name the reliable sources because we are now the main attention of censors - but .. cont.... #Iranelection
omgggwth Re: For those who still can't access Twitter.16th-Jun-2009 10:05 pm (UTC)
Come on, persiankiwii! Give us the second half of that.
omgggwth 16th-Jun-2009 10:00 pm (UTC)
video of student death removed from youtube #iranelection

I don't know whether I'm sad or happy over this. I feel bad. :(
doublekill 16th-Jun-2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
They actually showed some students getting hurt and patching each other up on CNN. They're showing graphic images and video.
fruityphobia 16th-Jun-2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Situation room?
Wolf Blitzer, please do some real reporting.
lavenderfrost 16th-Jun-2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
So nice to see my CNN graph is STILL appropriate. -_-;;

this_love_lies 16th-Jun-2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
"Some of what you are about to see IRAN DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE AT ALL." Thank you CNN and Wolf for the ominous lulz.
moldycelery 16th-Jun-2009 10:02 pm (UTC)
Seriously, it sounds so melodramatic.
flight__ 16th-Jun-2009 10:02 pm (UTC)


Students burning Ahmadinejad's picture in Shiraz.
flight__ 16th-Jun-2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
fucking.... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=954_1245175837&p=1 direct link
flowerings 16th-Jun-2009 10:02 pm (UTC)
I can't get on Twitter. ;___;
fruityphobia 16th-Jun-2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
SIT DOWN MCCAIN!
D: Ugh!
lavenderfrost 16th-Jun-2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
What did he do this time?
pumpkinwaltz 16th-Jun-2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
OT but can someone explain "HURR DURR" to me? I'm slow.
doublekill 16th-Jun-2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
I can get on twitter, but the lack of any word at all on any of the feeds I'm watching is worrying me.

Has anyone seen anything I've missed?
xmyrin 16th-Jun-2009 10:06 pm (UTC)
persiankiwi: i cannot name the reliable sources because we are now the main attention of censors - but .. cont.... #Iranelection
omgggwth 16th-Jun-2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
alicious_: "Iran's leading human rights lawyer Abdolfattah Soltani arrested. Confirmed
carverhawke 16th-Jun-2009 10:05 pm (UTC)
god dammit
dayadhvam_triad 16th-Jun-2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
5:50 PM ET -- A break. For much of the last three days, I've been glued to my computer with all of you, trying to wrap my head around what's happening in Iran. I'm going to take a brief break tonight to catch up on sleep (I'll also be spending a few minutes on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow if you're interested). But in the meantime, please keep sending emails and letting me know what you're seeing.
--from HuffPo. Poor guy, he must be run ragged. Twitter & Sullivan for now.
cookie_nut Badass.16th-Jun-2009 10:05 pm (UTC)
From Huffpo:




dayadhvam_triad Re: Badass.16th-Jun-2009 10:07 pm (UTC)
*whistles* Hardcore. >D
orange_fell 16th-Jun-2009 10:05 pm (UTC)
I just created a Twitter, as little as it will help, I want to do what I can.
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