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~IRAN ELECTION FALLOUT DISCUSSION/LIVE POST~

11:21 am - 06/16/2009
mercaque 17th-Jun-2009 12:58 pm (UTC)
Friedman weighs in here (I'm not a fan of his, but what the hell, I'm bored):

Watching events unfolding in Tehran raises three intriguing questions for me: Is Facebook to Iran’s Moderate Revolution what the mosque was to Iran’s Islamic Revolution? Is Twitter to Iranian moderates what muezzins were to Iranian mullahs? And, finally, is any of this good for the Jews — particularly Israel’s prime minister, Bibi Netanyahu?
lol@ making it sound like Netanyahu is President of The Jews.
evilgmbethy 17th-Jun-2009 01:04 pm (UTC)
You know, I'm really sick of the debate on whether Mousavi is any different from Ahmadinejad, and I'm kind of peeved at Obama for bringing it up, because now cable news is all over this meme.

It's not about Mousavi. It's about the people's right to have their vote counted. And as the protests when on, it's about the brutality against those who dare speak out and stifling of voices.

Wringing of hands over "omg is Mousavi any better tho??" is missing the point entirely.

Besides, if they were no different, there would have been no need to rig elections, anyway, so it's kind of a stupid question.
keeperofthekeys 17th-Jun-2009 01:12 pm (UTC)
Rigging the election was just plain stupid on their part. I think they're going to have to face way more change now than they ever would have if they had allowed the election to proceed legally and Mousavi had won.

But yeah, I had to explain to my friends yesterday too. It's not that Mousavi is just this awesome, it's not about him.
ojuzu 17th-Jun-2009 01:06 pm (UTC)
Soooo . . . we've got slogans and a colour. Any suggestions for an anthem/theme song?
keeperofthekeys 17th-Jun-2009 01:18 pm (UTC)
What kind of theme are you looking for?

I have Heather Small's "Proud" stuck in my head right now.
fruityphobia 17th-Jun-2009 01:18 pm (UTC)
Finally back from school. Any big news today?
musikologie 17th-Jun-2009 01:33 pm (UTC)
I don't know if this was posted last night and I missed it, but I just saw it on Twitter: Proof of electoral fraud -- letter with actual vote tallies.

The letter says that Moussavi got over 19,000,000 while Ahmadinejad got only 5,000,000. I think this is the letter from the filmakers that people were talking about yesterday?
keeperofthekeys 17th-Jun-2009 01:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Those numbers have been circulating around for a while.
candlejack 17th-Jun-2009 01:34 pm (UTC)
I'm going to have to go to work, but if anyone wants:


Icons also here.
sky_magenta 17th-Jun-2009 01:43 pm (UTC)
They are wonderful <3
mercaque 17th-Jun-2009 01:35 pm (UTC)
Apparently the game with South Korea ended in a draw. Iran can only make it to the World Cup depending on how the Saudi Arabia-North Korea match (!!) goes.
hinoema 17th-Jun-2009 01:41 pm (UTC)
Considering the genuine feeling from the audience toward the Iranian team, I'm glad it ended that way.
pichipai 17th-Jun-2009 01:45 pm (UTC)
From HuffPo:

The BBC claimed today that Iran has widened electronic jamming of its services, as the country's Revolutionary Guard ordered domestic websites and blogs to remove any material that might "create tension" amid post-election unrest.


Both the BBC's World News and Persian TV channels are now being jammed by "ground-based interference" in what one senior corporation insider told MediaGuardian.co.uk was akin to "electronic warfare".

Iranian authorities also blocked access to Yahoo Messenger early today as the country intensified its crackdown on all means of communication following Friday's controversial presidential poll.


D:
keeperofthekeys 17th-Jun-2009 01:55 pm (UTC)
Lovely.

However, as I said yesterday--you can't stop the signal. Someone will find a way to get information out.
evilgmbethy 17th-Jun-2009 01:55 pm (UTC)
lol@CNN calling the youtube videos from Iran "iReports." STFD, douchenozzles.

At least they're showing the youtube videos, and they have an ~*Iran Desk*~ with a pretty reporter wearing green, but come on, there is no need to label people's youtube videos with your corporate brand iReport crap.
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ariesangel404 17th-Jun-2009 01:55 pm (UTC)
ProtesterHelp: Raffsanjani has an arrest warrant out for him. Do not let the Bisiji take him, they do not have the authority.
ariesangel404 17th-Jun-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
RT @tommytrc: Iran threatening YouTube and Twitter with legal action if they keep us online #iranelection
musikologie 17th-Jun-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
That's crazy -- I mean, I'm not up on my international law, but how are YouTube or Twitter doing anything illegal? They're not Iranian companies, the Iranian gov't has no jurisdiction over them.
mercaque 17th-Jun-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
God, they are really getting unhinged...
aftermornings 17th-Jun-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
nextrevolution:

i thought i saw my daughter near valiyasr but it was just little boy #IranElection

iran is burning and the pig runs to russia #IranElection

where is my daughter? where is my daughter? where where wher .... this thought haunts me now #iranelection
babytooths 17th-Jun-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
;_________________;
I always feel like crying when I read his/her tweets.
jmclive 17th-Jun-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
My hope for today is that my IRL friends finally get a clue and turn on the news for fifteen minutes. Can you imagine not having watched the news or seen a news paper or overheard anything about Iran in the past four days?

Also, I hope the shade of ribbon doesn't matter because all I have is an evergreen colour.
ariesangel404 17th-Jun-2009 02:04 pm (UTC)
I've given up on my IRL friends/acquaintances. The world revolves around Real Housewives of New Jersey, how ~boring~ the summer is, and how much everyone LOVES their boyfriends.

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I need to relocate.
mercaque 17th-Jun-2009 02:02 pm (UTC)
HuffPo reports on #jerusalempostfail:

The Jerusalem Post runs a story, based off the claims of "two protesters," that Palestinian Hamas members are attacking the reformists in Iran.

On Monday, he said, "my brother had his ribs beaten in by those Palestinian animals. Taking our people's money is not enough, they are thirsty for our blood too."

The protesters quoted offer no evidence (that the Post printed) of a tie to Palestine or Hamas. It seems quite irresponsible to me for a newspaper to be printing these serious allegations with apparently zero evidence. I should say, the Jerusalem Post isn't the only guilty party, just the most recent.
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