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I am not sure if the news is running this in the United States, but my sister just linked me to this video. It shows the graphic death of a 16 year old girl who some say was sniped by a member of the basij. I don't know all the details of what has happened, but apparently, the girl and her father were watching the protests.

Is this what it has boiled down to...the killing of kids? What a perfect way to terrify the people--go after their children.

The video is EXTREMELY graphic (blood and the eventual death of the girl, with crowd-members screaming in grief), thus the video has been placed behind a cut.



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sentinelsoul 21st-Jun-2009 10:32 am (UTC)
To anyone who doesn't wish to watch the video, you don't see the actual shooting, just the aftermath. The girl starts bleeding from the mouth and nose and from the back of the head, all the while people are screaming and trying to stay the wound.

The part where she looks like she's looking at the camera/you... *shudders*

Man, okay, I hate to play devil's advocate here, but part of this looks... faked. Yeah, I know, hate me if you want, but can anyone verify this? I really don't want this to be actually happening so I'd rather it be faked, but if it's for real, then I think I'm going to be sick.

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dickbitchmolly 21st-Jun-2009 10:35 am (UTC)
Yeah, saw this earlier. Really sad. Very interesting to see someone actually dying though, there's a huge disconnect between how it looks IRL and in movies/games or whatever.
angry_chick 21st-Jun-2009 11:52 am (UTC)
It looks unremarkable IRL, but there is something in this video that Hollywood will never get. It's raw and absolutely, sickeningly, disturbing.
lisaee 21st-Jun-2009 10:35 am (UTC)
I couldn't watch much of this. I saw it yesterday in the aph_anonmeme, and when her eyes start to roll I just had to click stop.

It's horrible, and hits you hard. Stark reality. :|
ex_irelands 21st-Jun-2009 10:57 am (UTC)
I watched the blurred out version on CNN, and I had no idea she was 16. It made me cry, and they had her face covered. I don't know if I could watch this. But jesus, 16 years old?
ms_maree 21st-Jun-2009 11:13 am (UTC)
Yeah no, I can live without that image haunting me. Reading about it is bad enough.
leviicorpus 21st-Jun-2009 12:40 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this. :(
randomneses 21st-Jun-2009 11:39 am (UTC)
I really just...had no idea that you just start bleeding from all those parts like that D:
art_house_queen 21st-Jun-2009 11:45 am (UTC)
Yeah...when the heart bursts or when things in the chest area are broken, the blood and fluids escape...they have to go somewhere, and the path of least resistance is through the mouth and nose.

I just...when I saw that, it just killed it for me. I have never seen a person die, ever. It just...man.
angry_chick 21st-Jun-2009 11:42 am (UTC)
I cried. Literally. That was awful.

Hollywood tries to desensitize people to this, but this is something that is just absolutely appalling. I think it was either Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham on Fox News Saturday (my grandfather was watching it, I heard it in the background) and they were outraged at that.

I think that is the only time that I share their outrage.
art_house_queen 21st-Jun-2009 11:46 am (UTC)
Yeah, Hollywood makes death and dying seem all romantic and slo mow...this was just...crushing.
fieldofdreams 21st-Jun-2009 12:09 pm (UTC)
Wow. this was very disturbing yet something that you have to see, to understand the severity of the problem out in Iran. Seriously, I am glad I viewed this video. I have never seen anyone die before, I've seen dead bodies/smelled (which is not pretty when it's a human, it is the most pugent smell in the world - trumps any dead deer hit by a car that died in the woods) Anyway, thank you for posting this.
angry_chick 21st-Jun-2009 12:16 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I understand that networks blur things out, but this isn't something that can be blurred out - otherwise the point will be missed.
cookiesauce 21st-Jun-2009 12:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I already have PTSD, thanks.

At some point I think this is voyeuristic. I don't think anyone needs to see someone bleeding to death.
cookiesauce 21st-Jun-2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
This is obviously going to become a thing, so let me elaborate.

There are ways to understand what's going on in Iran and how absolutely terrible it is without watching a young girl die. I've been tweeting 24/7 and have gotten emails about how the material I've gotten out has genuinely gotten people to understand what's going on. The thing is, I couldn't post something like this, and I haven't posted any shootings or the youtube videos of people dying - because I don't want that to continue circulation. Why would you want more people to see that? It exists in the word, yes, but it's not a necessary thing. People just want to see the deaths so they can watch people die, and that defines voyeurism.

Sorry this is so nonstructured and rambling and blahed i'm exhausted.
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heartvscliche 21st-Jun-2009 12:16 pm (UTC)
I can't believe this is on the internet. We should let the women have their dignity, in death at least.
cookiesauce 21st-Jun-2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
THANK YOU. THIS.
radioactivepiss 21st-Jun-2009 12:39 pm (UTC)
I firmly believe things like this have to exist and have to be accessed freely, serving as a firm record and proof against those who would have us forget later, but I feel incredibly guilty for watching that.

And kind of incredibly sick.
leviicorpus 21st-Jun-2009 12:43 pm (UTC)
IA. It's awful to see and that the video is being shown everywhere, but it serves as indelible proof that this ACTUALLY happened should people attempt to cover it up later. And like angry_chick said, it can help to "covert" those who don't consider this whole situation to be an important issue.
teacup_werewolf 21st-Jun-2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
The video was very graphic and carried a strong message.

However, I think this is going to end up on /b/ and become another meme. It seems to happen to a lot of things that stir-up controversy and emotion.
happythree 21st-Jun-2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
However, I think this is going to end up on /b/ and become another meme. It seems to happen to a lot of things that stir-up controversy and emotion.

So what? There are shitty people in the world, that doesn't mean we have to let them affect our choices when there are far more people who will probably never know what /b/ even is.
sinstralpride 21st-Jun-2009 02:09 pm (UTC)
I am sorry Neda. I am so sorry. No one deserves to die this way, nor die so young.

We will not forget you and we will not forget Iran.
jsrocks 21st-Jun-2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
She's not looking at the camera. She's already gone at that moment and her eyes are just rolling back into her head. :( The body makes these last minute spasms before it completely shuts down, thus all the blood coming out.

It's graphic, but it's what happened to this poor girl.

Watching a person die like that is horrific. :'( But it really shows what goes on over there and what these people are protesting/fighting for.

My thoughts are with her family. It's just terrible. :(
keeni84 21st-Jun-2009 02:37 pm (UTC)
That was the part that was so hard for me to watch. The very end, with her eyes. I was so afraid to look beyond that part.
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