"Here's my premise and you agree with it or not," Shatner posited. "If you have money, you are going to get health care. If you don't have money, it's more difficult."
Rush skirted the issue and chose to talk about real estate instead. "If you have money you're gonna get a house on the beach. If you don't have money you're gonna live in a bungalow somewhere."
"Right," Shatner responded, "but we're talking about health care."
"What's the difference?"
Shatner pressed on. "The difference is we're talking about health care, not a house or a bungalow."
Rush then accuses Shatner of assuming "there's some morally superior aspect to health care."
Shatner insists that he's not moral at all, he just wants to keep the subject on health care. He takes a new tact: "Isn't this valid -- that the health care system today is breaking the country?"
"No, it's not."
The two go back and forth for a bit and the argument gets more heated. Shatner narrows in: "The sum total of what I want to ask you, politically, is HOW DO YOU KNOW?"
"It's my job. It's my life. It's my career. It's my passion."