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New scanners break child porn laws

11:02 pm - 01/04/2010

The rapid introduction of full body scanners at British airports threatens to breach child protection laws which ban the creation of indecent images of children, the Guardian has learned.

Privacy campaigners claim the images created by the machines are so graphic they amount to "virtual strip-searching" and have called for safeguards to protect the privacy of passengers involved.

Ministers now face having to exempt under 18s from the scans or face the delays of introducing new legislation to ensure airport security staff do not commit offences under child pornography laws.

They also face demands from civil liberties groups for safeguards to ensure that images from the £80,000 scanners, including those of celebrities, do not end up on the internet. The Department for Transport confirmed that the "child porn" problem was among the "legal and operational issues" now under discussion in Whitehall after Gordon Brown's announcement on Sunday that he wanted to see their "gradual" introduction at British airports.

A 12-month trial at Manchester airport of scanners which reveal naked images of passengers including their genitalia and breast enlargements, only went ahead last month after under-18s were exempted.

The decision followed a warning from Terri Dowty, of Action for Rights of Children, that the scanners could breach the Protection of Children Act 1978, under which it is illegal to create an indecent image or a "pseudo-image" of a child.

Dowty told the Guardian she raised concerns with the Metropolitan police five years ago over plans to use similar scanners in an anti-knife campaign, and when the Department for Transport began a similar trial in 2006 on the Heathrow Express rail service from Paddington station.

"They do not have the legal power to use full body scanners in this way," said Dowty, adding there was an exemption in the 1978 law to cover the "prevention and detection of crime" but the purpose had to be more specific than the "trawling exercise" now being considered.

A Manchester airport spokesman said their trial had started in December, but only with passengers over 18 until the legal situation with children was clarified. So far 500 people have taken part on a voluntary basis with positive feedback from nearly all those involved.

Passengers also pass through a metal detector before they can board their plane. Airport officials say the scanner image is only seen by a single security officer in a remote location before it is deleted.

A Department for Transport spokesman said: "We understand the concerns expressed about privacy in relation to the deployment of body scanners. It is vital staff are properly trained and we are developing a code of practice to ensure these concerns are properly taken into account. Existing safeguards also mean those operating scanners are separated from the device, so unable to see the person to whom the image relates, and these anonymous images are deleted immediately."

But Shami Chakrabarti, of Liberty, had concerns over the "instant" introduction of scanners: "Where are the government assurances that electronic strip-searching is to be used in a lawful and proportionate and sensitive manner based on rational criteria rather than racial or religious bias?" she said.

Her concerns were echoed by Simon Davies of Privacy International who said he was sceptical of the privacy safeguards being used in the United States. Although the American system insists on the deletion of the images, he believed scans of celebrities or of people with unusual or freakish body profiles would prove an "irresistible pull" for some employees.

The disclosures came as Downing Street insisted British intelligence information that the Detroit plane suspect tried to contact radical Islamists while a student in London was passed on to the US.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's name was included in a dossier of people believed to have made attempts to deal with extremists, but he was not singled out as a particular risk, Brown's spokesman said.

President Barack Obama has criticised US intelligence agencies for failing to piece together information about the 23-year-old that should have stopped him boarding the flight.

Brown's spokesman said "There was security information about this individual's activities and that was shared with the US authorities."


Maybe the plug will get pulled on this mess after all...
snapesgirl34 5th-Jan-2010 06:23 pm (UTC)
leads_to_sex 5th-Jan-2010 06:50 pm (UTC)
Well, I just don't understand. What's the big deal about having everyone go through a scanner for 20 seconds -- which only one person is going to be viewing, in a separate room -- if it means many lives will potentially be saved?

No racial profiling. Everyone treated equally. Seems like a great solution to me.
snapesgirl34 5th-Jan-2010 07:04 pm (UTC)
How do I know that one person isn't in there getting off to looking at naked passengers all day. ;)

Seriously though, it's not really saving potential lives. The chances of a terrorist attacking a plane is probably one in a billion. I fly all the time and it's not really something I'm concerned about. It's like walking around wearing rubber because you're scared that lighting will hit you. Yes, there's a chance something bad will happen when you fly. Bad things happen, that's life and it's out of our control. And obviously you should take safety measures, but there's a point where you cross the line and full body scans crosses the line. The invasion of privacy really isn't worth that one in a billion chance. And besides, if someone really wants to get a bomb on a plane they'll find a way around the full body scans.
asukanagakuse 5th-Jan-2010 07:23 pm (UTC)
Seriously though, it's not really saving potential lives.

How is it not when it can catch things that a metal detector will miss?

The invasion of privacy really isn't worth that one in a billion chance.

I disagree that because the chance is low doesn't mean we shouldn't look into higher security measures. There's a rare chance when I go to the corner store that I will be in a car accident, but that doesn't stop me from putting my seatbelt on everytime. Granted, obviously seatbelts and body machines are not the same, but I don't have a problem with upped safety.

Hell if it made more people comfortable with flying. It might help the airline industry.

"And besides, if someone really wants to get a bomb on a plane they'll find a way around the full body scans."

I agree regardless of security measures, they will try to work around it. I don't think that means we should give up outsmarting them. :)
snapesgirl34 5th-Jan-2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
I agree with you about seat belts (hell, I'm anal about wearing a seat belt), obviously you should take precautions, but the chance of getting a car accident is much, much, much higher than being in some sort of plane accident. Car accidents happen all the time. Terrorist attacks don't.

I just don't feel air plane bombings are all that likely to happen. Obviously they do happen, but people seem to be acting like there are terrorists everywhere. It's like people who are afraid to swim because they think they'll be killed by a shark, when you're more likely to be killed by a dog. Yes, you might be killed by a shark, it certainly happens, but you it's extremely unlikely to happen and not worth the stress and worry.

I certainly think that saving lives and keeping people safe while flying is important, but I think there are better ways to do it than using something so invasive. Hey, full strip searches of every passenger would probably make flying safer, but I don't think it's worth the invasion of privacy.

Cute bloodhound btw.
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snapesgirl34 6th-Jan-2010 12:56 pm (UTC)
I guess I'm just really self conscious. ;) I just don't think the chances of getting blown up on a plane are that high. Are really more worried about running into bad weather.
snapesgirl34 6th-Jan-2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
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leads_to_sex 6th-Jan-2010 12:33 am (UTC)
I guess I value my intellectual liberty more than some officer seeing a vague outline of my body for 20 seconds.
zombieroadtrip 6th-Jan-2010 03:37 pm (UTC)
IAWTC thanks Ben
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