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Follow up on Jacksonville City Council mess

7:26 pm - 04/27/2010
This is a follow up to this post:
Fla. councilman unsure if Muslims, gays should hold public office

Ending nearly three weeks of controversial back-and-forth, University of North Florida professor Parvez Ahmed was confirmed to the city's Human Rights Commission Tuesday night.

The City Council vote was 13-6. Voting in favor were members Bill Bishop, Reggie Brown, Richard Clark, Michael Corrigan, John Crescimbeni, Ronnie Fussell, Johnny Gaffney, Art Graham, Kevin Hyde, Warren Jones, Stephen Joost, Denise Lee and Art Shad.

Daniel Davis, Ray Holt, Glorious Johnson, Don Redman, Jack Webb and Clay Yarborough voted no.

As discussion began, Redman called Ahmed to the podium and asked him to "say a prayer to your God." The comment elicited a negative reaction from the audience and from Deputy General Counsel Cindy Laquidara, who rushed to the microphone to ask to speak with Redman privately.

After a moment of confusion, Redman said he wouldn't ask Ahmed to pray but instead if the council's opening prayer offended him. When Ahmed asked Redman why that was relevant, and that people had a right to pray to whomever they please, Redman said Ahmed would be offended by a prayer to Jesus, and therefore was not suitable to serve on the commission.

Several other council members spoke on both sides, including Art Shad, who apologized to Ahmed and said he hoped the city wouldn't be tainted by the vote of the vocal minority.


Note that this is a SECOND member of the Council, not the original one who asked Ahmed to answer question about gay marriage and "under God" that asked him to pray in front of the meeting. Also, one member who voted against (Glorious Johnson) did so because she felt he would be a distraction to the HRC (which has a total of 20 members).
escherichiacola 28th-Apr-2010 12:12 am (UTC)
This is getting dumber by the fucking second.
lovebats 28th-Apr-2010 12:27 am (UTC)
ah, Florida.

i can't wait until i'm out of here.
chipuni 28th-Apr-2010 12:29 am (UTC)

Do the members of the Council know that Muslims consider Jesus to be one of their prophets?

They really should take a basic Religion 101 class...
erunamiryene 28th-Apr-2010 12:54 am (UTC)
Psh, like they'd study any of those FAAAAAAAKE, non-true shams, aka "Not My Christianity"? That lets SATAN INTO YOUR LIFE, you know.
omgangiepants 28th-Apr-2010 12:40 am (UTC)
lmfao jesus christ florida

just annex gainesville to georgia and saw yourselves off from the rest of us PLEASE
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omgangiepants 28th-Apr-2010 02:28 am (UTC)
Consider it a stepping stone into civilization.
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omgangiepants 28th-Apr-2010 02:35 am (UTC)

Seriously though, any movement of Gainesville that brings it even an inch closer to me is a positive thing.
bmh4d0k3n 28th-Apr-2010 01:21 am (UTC)
Yes, because every Christian has the same concept of God.

kynn 28th-Apr-2010 01:43 am (UTC)
...Glorious Johnson...

aviv_b 28th-Apr-2010 01:59 am (UTC)
Do they have any Jewish members on their board? Did they ask them if they were offended by a prayer that mentions Jesus in it?

And what the hell is a government agency doing praying?? Anyone ever heard of separation of church and state. Uh...guess not...nevermind.
chipuni 28th-Apr-2010 05:22 am (UTC)
I think that it's a matter of tradition.

There's still a chaplain of the House of Representatives, who opens each session with a prayer.

Edited at 2010-04-28 05:22 am (UTC)
filkertom 28th-Apr-2010 03:25 pm (UTC)
Between presuming his god was superior to Ahmed's, presuming Ahmed would be insulted by a prayer to Jesus, and needing a prayer at a frickin' City Council meeting, one has to wonder if Redman has any interest in, y'know, the business of the City of Jacksonville.
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