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Thieves could go free while victim faces jail time

11:17 am - 07/09/2010
WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. - Admitted thieves are going free, while an elderly Wheat Ridge man is facing the possibility of spending the rest of his life behind bars, all, he says, for trying to defend his property and his life.

82-year-old Robert Wallace said in February that he looked out his window and saw two men hooking his flatbed trailer up to their pickup. He yelled at them to stop, but they sped away, stealing his trailer. He told police he fired two shots at the pickup.

Minutes later, police say 32-year-old Damacio Torres dropped 28-year-old Alvaro Cardona off at a hospital emergency room with a gunshot wound to the face.

Torres did not stay to talk with police, but they caught up with him later. According to court documents, he admitted he and Cardona stole the trailer.

Wallace did not want to talk on camera, but when we asked him if the two men threatened him he said, "They almost ran me over."

The Jefferson County DA's office said that neither Torres nor Cardona have been charged with anything at this point, even though Torres confessed to the crime. However, the homeowner, Wallace is facing twelve felony counts, including four counts of attempted first degree murder. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars.

Sources say Torres and Cardona are believed to be in the country illegally and both have an arrest record. Cardona's record includes public fighting and numerous traffic offenses like driving without a license or insurance. Torres's record includes agricultural trespassing as well as a 2005 arrest for aggravated motor vehicle theft for which he was given a plea bargain to a lesser crime. Sources say Torres is also under investigation for being part of a major auto theft ring.

Wallace is out on bond and due back in court in September to enter his plea.

Neighbors say the thieves should be the ones facing charges and Wallace should be given an award for protecting the neighborhood.

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celtic_thistle 9th-Jul-2010 05:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, Wheat Ridge. I went to high school there. They're really trying to make this story look like some sort of OMG LOOK WHAT THOSE BROWN PEOPLE ARE DOING AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE IN TROUBLE FOR JUST PROTECTING THEMSELVES :(((( when tbqh dude shot someone in the face, NOT in self-defense. Why not call the cops?

This article is so Us vs. Them. I cannot. The headline should read "Thieves could go free while victim, who shot at them, badly injuring one, faces jail time for trying to kill them."

Oh, and this part? Dude's lying. Wallace did not want to talk on camera, but when we asked him if the two men threatened him he said, "They almost ran me over." BULLSHIT. They turned the truck around, TOWARDS the guy with the gun, and tried to run him over? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

Edited at 2010-07-09 05:25 pm (UTC)
thebigbadbutch 9th-Jul-2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
OK so this guy does not have the self control to call the police when he is being robbed and when he finally gives a statement he lied to them? What a dick.
celtic_thistle 9th-Jul-2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
Exactly. It's so typical that everyone's bleating about his rights when he shot a guy in the face.
yunghustlaz 9th-Jul-2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
Not quite sure stealing a truck gives somebody the right to attempt to use lethal force against the criminals. Like, srsly, that's not self-defense as an affirmative defense at all.
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shirozora 9th-Jul-2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
Um. Wow. Also, this article feels biased, :\
celtic_thistle 9th-Jul-2010 05:10 pm (UTC)
Yep. It's the local Faux Noise affiliate. They're the shittiest news source in Denver.
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thebigbadbutch 9th-Jul-2010 05:14 pm (UTC)
Castle doesn't apply outside of a person's house or if they are outside of their car. It also doesn't apply when the criminal is not behaving aggressively.
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dragoon1940 9th-Jul-2010 05:13 pm (UTC)
If someone is running away from you, you don't get to shoot them in the back, even if they're stealing your shit.
csi_vixen 9th-Jul-2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
OT, but I adore your icon.
abee 9th-Jul-2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
Ok, after reading the Oakdale article, I'm expecting Bludstone to explain THIS. *popcorn*
lesket 9th-Jul-2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
Sources say Torres and Cardona are believed to be in the country illegally and both have an arrest record.

Oh okay, they totally deserved a gunshot wound to the face then, NEXT~
thebigbadbutch 9th-Jul-2010 05:19 pm (UTC)
He grabbed his gun and ran outside the house before he started shooting. That makes it a premeditated murder attempt.
ghost_busting 9th-Jul-2010 05:17 pm (UTC)
I can't help but think that shooting someone in the face is an inappropriate reaction to a couple of guys stealing your "flatbed trailer" (whatever the fuck that is). But maybe that's just my bleeding liberal heart.
thebigbadbutch 9th-Jul-2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
Flatbed Trailer. You can seriously buy these things off Craigslist for $100. Definitely not worth someone's life.
imnotbob 9th-Jul-2010 05:18 pm (UTC)
Except you don't shoot at people who are running away.
celtic_thistle 9th-Jul-2010 05:30 pm (UTC)

It's not like there's some government-funded organization of people with guns who are paid to investigate crimes or anything, who you can call with a simple phone numb--oh. Wait.
homasse 9th-Jul-2010 05:34 pm (UTC)
Uh, he shot a guy in the face.

The story in the article was not the one I was expecting from the headline.
coconut_theory 9th-Jul-2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, same here.
haruhiko 9th-Jul-2010 05:38 pm (UTC)
Between the fail of this "news" piece and the comments in the Oakland post below, I just.... asdfhjlkjhdj.

It's a telling commentary on the influence of capitalism in our country that people feel justified in brandishing a killing weapon when their THINGS are being threatened.
celtic_thistle 9th-Jul-2010 05:39 pm (UTC)
ikr?! This society is so materialistic it's sickening. MAH STUFF PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW
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antiotter 9th-Jul-2010 05:44 pm (UTC)
You're allowed to use deadly force to defend your own life or the lives or others. Once they're fleeing, you're not defending jack shit.

Actual law enforcement officers have very stringent restrictions on when they can shoot at a fleeing suspect. I'm pretty sure most states don't allow LEOs to open up on a public street just to take down a couple of non-violent car thieves.
luvlorn 10th-Jul-2010 08:13 pm (UTC)
In FL you can pretty much shoot the guy if you feel threatened.
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