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Papantonio: Conservatives Turn Colleges Into Ayn Rand Universities



A few weeks ago, the story broke about how the Koch Brothers had bought themselves a position of influence at Florida State University. But the story goes far beyond both FSU and the Koch Brothers. It turns out that right wing billionaires and think tanks have been actively buying positions at universities across America for years, just so they can help push their Ayn Rand, laissez-faire capitalism ideas about corporations being righteous, and government being evil. Mike Papantonio talks about how this happened, and how the GOP is trying to indoctrinate college students with investigative journalist Daniel Denvir.




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poetic_pixie_13 21st-Jun-2011 09:52 pm (UTC)
I honestly believe that Ayn Rand was a sociopath. Negl, when I find out that someone is an Objectivist or thinks she was an amazing, visionary philosopher I assume they're selfish assholes and stop associating with them. Which is a useful policy in university.
anese 21st-Jun-2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
I know a guy that is a complete Ayn Rand devotee. What makes it worse is that he will never have to experience how wrong he is--at any point in his life--

he's 25 year's old, he's white male, tall, handsome, single, no college debt and makes over 125,000/year.

He's literally less than 1% of the population.

I can't talk politics with him--you just can't. He'll never see the world any other way.
green_glitter_ 22nd-Jun-2011 01:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I have this friend who's an Ayn Rand fan. His parents are LOADED. Not kind of middle-class well off, but filthy rich. He's also young, white, straight...
dixiedolphin 21st-Jun-2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
This. So much THIS.

And old boyfriend bought me a copy of "The Fountainhead" for my birthday years ago. I figured I'd be open minded and give it a read. I was horrified, to say the least. Explained an awful lot, though, about the boyfriend.

I use it to prop up a wobbly table now.
sillysallyfckup 21st-Jun-2011 10:59 pm (UTC)
Same, my old roommate was really into the whole Objectivist way of thinking. He was very... civil, so I was too, but I found most of what he said absolutely abhorrent.

After a while I just stopped talking to him as much, it was a weird living situation.

On another note, he also said we should get a gun for the apartment at one time and I am really, really glad it never happened.
curseangel 21st-Jun-2011 11:01 pm (UTC)
I agree, and I do that, too. I've known a few Rand-fans in school, and mostly promptly stopped considering them even so much as potential acquaintances.
tmlforsyth 22nd-Jun-2011 02:08 am (UTC)
I read that she took some iffy medication in the 30s, which may have had a big impact on her. Every College student is bound to attach to some radical, though she was humorless and vindictive. Her political fans are amusing, as she despised conservatives, and she'd beat most Tea Baggers with her collected works. She also despised the Libertarian Party, calling them hippies of the right.
roseofjuly 22nd-Jun-2011 04:51 am (UTC)
Slate wrote a really good article about Ayn Rand and how her experiences (understandably) warped her sense of reality and her psychological well-being:

http://www.slate.com/id/2233966
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mswyrr 22nd-Jun-2011 03:14 am (UTC)
ILU
antiotter 21st-Jun-2011 10:44 pm (UTC)
Ah, the small government, economic messiah who died because the only health insurance she could afford was Medicaid.
kitschaster 22nd-Jun-2011 12:10 am (UTC)
Oh wow, and here I wanted to attend FSU, but if Koch and the like are now associated with it, I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. Ugh. *sighs*
accioceci 22nd-Jun-2011 12:10 am (UTC)
Besides being disgusting, I side-eye Ayn Rand fans because damnit, she's a BAD writer. From an objective (lol) standpoint, her stories are not well-written. It's like getting moral advice from Twilight- it just makes me very confused.
imnotasquirrel 22nd-Jun-2011 12:25 am (UTC)
I just found out that one of my closest friends likes Ayn Rand. :*(

The slight silver lining: she only likes the writing instead of her philosophy, but still... *SOB*

(Even if you look at Rand solely from a writing perspective, how can you like her?! At least my friend agreed that the 70-page speech was unnecessary, lol.)
fishphile 22nd-Jun-2011 12:30 am (UTC)
I think the writing itself is dreadful. It's worst than when Stephen King or Charles Dickens drones on and on. Even if I liked the message, I'd still hate the books.
imnotasquirrel 22nd-Jun-2011 12:31 am (UTC)
Yep. But at least I can take comfort in the fact that my friend isn't a selfish Objectivist dickhead. She just has questionable taste in writing! :P
tmlforsyth 22nd-Jun-2011 01:54 am (UTC)
Dickens and Ayn Rand are an interesting comparison. Dickens and Marx were pen pals, though I can imagine Dickens fucked around with Marx a bit. I do wonder what Marx would be like as a fiction writer (probably not that good). Reading Atlas Shrugged makes for a good challenge, though.
amyura 22nd-Jun-2011 12:37 am (UTC)
I would laugh at Ayn Rand fans until I remember that the ones who aren't subsisting off cheetos and Mountain Dew in their parents' basements are running the world.
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