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Infertile couples seeking artificial ways of procreating are apparently sinners

9:52 am - 02/26/2012
Pope tells infertile couples to shun artificial procreation
VATICAN CITY (AP) – Pope Benedict XVI on Saturday urged infertile couples to shun artificial procreation, decrying such methods as a form of arrogance.

Speaking at the end of a three-day Vatican conference on diagnosing and treating infertility, Benedict also reiterated church teaching that marriage is the only permissible place to conceive children. Matrimony "constitutes the only 'place' worthy of the call to existence of a new human being," he said.

The pope pressed the church ban against artificial procreation, saying infertile couples should refrain from any method to try to conceive other than sex between husband and wife.

"The human and Christian dignity of procreation, in fact, doesn't consist in a 'product,' but in its link to the conjugal act, an expression of the love of the spouses of their union, not only biological but also spiritual," Benedict said.

He told the science and fertility experts in his audience to resist "the fascination of the technology of artificial fertility. Benedict cautioned the experts against "easy income, or even worse, the arrogance of taking the place of the Creator," an attitude he indicated underlies the field of artificial procreation.

Sperm or egg donation and methods such as in vitro fertilization are banned by the church for its faithful.

The emphasis on science "and the logic of profit seem today to dominate the field of infertility and human procreation," the pope said.

But he added that the Church encourages medical research into infertility.
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ladypolitik 26th-Feb-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
LOL, what the FUCK. I JUST finished teaching a 101-level Religion course to grade 9s, and literally ended the last unit on the methods artificial fertility methods that are DEEMED PERFECTLY FINE among Catholic/Protestant/non-Abrahamic faith couples.

I cant with this asshole brazenly re-writing liturgical tenants -- some of which were bullshit to begin with, lbr -- to suit his creepy POLITICAL slants. Honestly, get the fuck out.

jwaneeta 26th-Feb-2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
See, this is what gets me: in an attempt to ride the global fundamentalism wave -- a completely cynical decision, btw, by a magisterium that doesn't even believe in God -- the Catholic Church is defying its own doctrine.

1: For a thousand years, monastic tradition has welcomes both homosexuals and heterosexuals. Indeed, in the Rule of St benedict, I believe, it is expressly forbidden to bully gay monks. Now seminarians and novices are ordered to inform on one another for "homosexual tendencies."

2: For thirty years, the Theory of Evolution was taught in Catholic schools. Now, if you're a Catholic who accepts the TOE, you're an enemy of Mother Church -- that's a quote from two separate homilies on two separate parishes, right before I left.

3: Abortion has always been allowed in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother's health. This mother-martyring insanity started with Pope JP2 openly praising women who chose to carry the babies of their rapists, calling them "heroic." But at least JP2 was honestly deluded: Ratzinger is a functional atheist and a career climber who is drawing a hard line in an attempt to stop plummeting church membership.

4: Artificial Fertility? Hell yes! After all, science is a gift from God! Or it was, until Ratzinger ascended to Peter's Chair.

oudeteron 26th-Feb-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
lol sit down Darth Ratzinger

That's really all I've got about this vile human being. The fact that he's in a position of authority makes me fear for the world every single time he says something.
yamamanama 26th-Feb-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
I suspect he's leading the research in artificial procreation.
ook 26th-Feb-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
Arrogant, huh? With each passing bullshit proclamation from the Pope and the Vatican, I keep wondering when Catholics are going go have enough and rise up against them. There's so much good in Catholicism and yet the backwards and corrupt fuckhead men running things are so horrible. How can Catholics stand being told what to do by such complete assholes? At least with politicians there's a chance of voting them out. :(
ladypolitik 26th-Feb-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
How can Catholics stand being told what to do by such complete assholes? At least with politicians there's a chance of voting them out. :(

Well, it takes very little to just roll our eyes and to just keep doing whatever we were doing before he opened his mouth, really.
mingemonster 26th-Feb-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
i'd feel the need to double check the catholic stance on reproduction if they told me babies come from uteruses tbh
scolaro 26th-Feb-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
...saying infertile couples should refrain from any method to try to conceive other than sex between husband and wife.

So...fuck adoption as well? 'cause clearly the Lord states that infertile couples don't deserve children.
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miischelle 26th-Feb-2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
...just one more reason my 88 year old great aunt doesn't go to church anymore...
etherealtsuki 26th-Feb-2012 06:50 pm (UTC)
As someone that IVF might be a realistic option because I was already told getting pregnant will going to be crazy hard, middle fingers to all the haters.

My issues with Catholicism has always been with this chucklefucks aka the Papacy.
missmurchison 26th-Feb-2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
Like so much insanity, this is perfectly logical. Pro-choice also protects the right to have children; anti-choice allows authorities to forbid it as well as forcing women to give birth.
roseofjuly 26th-Feb-2012 07:19 pm (UTC)
This exactly. It just goes to show you that the point of their movement isn't to promote life but to control women's reproduction - who can reproduce and how.
angelus7988 26th-Feb-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
Vatican issues edict. Edict ignored by laiety. News at 11.
zhiva_the_mage 26th-Feb-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
Christianity in three words: "happiness is a sin".
wrestlingdog 26th-Feb-2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
...That's four.
kishmet 26th-Feb-2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
I don't get how anyone who disagrees with the church's bullshit can stay in the religion. I wouldn't be part of an organization where I disagreed with the authorities on a billion points (hello Boy Scouts) so idgi at all when I meet decent people who still call themselves Catholic.
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atomic_joe2 26th-Feb-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
Bloody hell you can't do anything these days without being a 'sinner' can you?
stormqueen280 26th-Feb-2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
Everything I like is illegal, immoral or fattening.
alryssa 26th-Feb-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
Well gee I guess the big sky bully can't be all that powerful then if he can't stop a couple of humans from conceiving in a non-traditional fashion.
bestdaywelived 26th-Feb-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
I thought that this was common knowledge. Catholics aren't supposed to artificially prevent pregnancy, so logic would follow that artificially creating pregnancy would be similarly forbidden. I thought that it was well-known that sex within a church-sanctioned marriage was the only way to procreate without violating the rules of the church.

I don't have a problem with this. I'm glad that it's becoming public knowledge and outrage is happening. Now that the church is trying to control nice, middle-class churchgoing families, maybe people will wake the fuck up.
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