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The Talk: Nonblack Version

12:14 am - 04/08/2012
The Talk: Nonblack Version

There is much talk about “the talk.”

“Sean O’Reilly was 16 when his mother gave him the talk that most black parents give their teenage sons,” Denisa R. Superville of the Hackensack (NJ) Record tells us. Meanwhile, down in Atlanta: “Her sons were 12 and 8 when Marlyn Tillman realized it was time for her to have the talk,” Gracie Bonds Staples writes in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

Leonard Greene talks about the talk in the New York Post. Someone bylined as KJ Dell’Antonia talks about the talk in The New York Times. Darryl Owens talks about the talk in the Orlando Sentinel.

Yes, talk about the talk is all over.

There is a talk that nonblack Americans have with their kids, too. My own kids, now 19 and 16, have had it in bits and pieces as subtopics have arisen. If I were to assemble it into a single talk, it would look something like the following.

Fuckery. Not bolded because I don't want to wade through this racist tripe again.Collapse )


I really wish this as satire. But it's not. This douche writes for the National Review, and his colleagues are not happy with this piece. And this is the same douche who lectured black law students about their inborn inferiority.
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cuterabbit33 7th-Apr-2012 04:13 pm (UTC)
Oh sure, I remember when my mom and dad gathered up me and my sisters around, and told us all precautionary tales of those scary blacks and that we must never talk to them, for surely they all hate us-

Oh, no, wait. No they didn't. Because they were fucking decent human beings. This guy should try being one every once in a while.
minilovely 7th-Apr-2012 04:13 pm (UTC)
You don’t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are white or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk.

Wait so are white, black, and Asian the only races in existence, or are Asians the only ~good minorities~ or what? If I'm supposed to be giving my kids racist lectures I want to make sure I'm using the correct racist talking points.

(I'm phrasing this as a joke, but no, really, I'm honestly kind of confused by this line?)

My eyes started crossing at "Your own ancestry is mixed north-European and northeast-Asian, but blacks will take you to be white," and then I scrolled down to see how long this was and wound up reading #11 and NOPE. Cannot even begin to unpack everything wrong with that. Or any of this, really.
yamamanama 7th-Apr-2012 07:28 pm (UTC)
I was like "What in the holy fuck? John Derbyshire is married to an Asian woman?" Then I was like "Wait a second! John Derbyshire is married?"
joshlymanftw 7th-Apr-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
If I end up having children who are white, I'll definitely be having a "talk" with them - but it will focus on maybe, I dunno, the history of race relations in this country, and how it's important to be aware of the past and aware of the fact that the past still (gasp!) affects the present.
sankaku_atama 7th-Apr-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
So, so many, many holes in the author's so-called 'logic'. Didn't his editor stop to think this might be a bad idea, especially since the author thought it was a good one?
sankaku_atama 8th-Apr-2012 05:32 pm (UTC)
Absolute fail on my part: I forgot to consider the source.
beoweasel 7th-Apr-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites

Given that you seem to believe that they're inferior to you, that they're less intelligent than you, and you're always suspicious that they're going to commit some act of violence or crime, can you blame them?
roseofjuly 8th-Apr-2012 02:58 pm (UTC)
Dude, this. It never ceases to baffle me how white people think they can beat us with sticks and then get all fucking indignant when when we throw our hands forward to defend ourselves.
romp 7th-Apr-2012 04:38 pm (UTC)
Oh. I didn't see that coming. It starts out reasonably and then ramps up the ugly.

A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us.
FFS 5%? He's done a study of this? Christ. And that was just the start of his bad science.
mastadge 7th-Apr-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
Yep. One out of every twenty he passes on the street tries to trip him, or at least refuses to get out of his way! For shame!
cero_ate 7th-Apr-2012 04:43 pm (UTC)
I recognize this talk. My mom was given it. Back in the sixties when she lived near Gary Indiana. She told me about it. Then she told me how it was wrong.
sihaya09 7th-Apr-2012 04:44 pm (UTC)
What the FUCK.
ebay313 7th-Apr-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
What the fuck is this? This can't be serious, right? I mean "you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice" and "so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets"- really? This is for real serious?
So gross. And I feel stupider for having read it.
hashishinahooka 7th-Apr-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
I'm almost surprised he didn't tell one of his children to have a child by a black, so he could have a designer grandchild.
aberforthsgoat 7th-Apr-2012 04:46 pm (UTC)
This is heart-stoppingly awful. As I was reading, I was thinking 'this is really too cruel even for satire, though it certainly exposes the ugly truth of many white hearts...'

I thought this was some Jonathon Swift shit, for sure.

And then I got to the bottom. How do people walk around with these thoughts in their heads? How do you pair up your hatred of the other with Malthusian logic and think you're just being rational?

In short, oh my god.
nesmith 7th-Apr-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
Swift would have been infinitely more subtle than this awful crap.
gretchystretchy 7th-Apr-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)

thepuddingcook 7th-Apr-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
beat me to it.
crysania4 7th-Apr-2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
I um...wow. At first I thought this was going to be a piece on how black parents have to have a talk with their kids about how they'll be treated differently, treated like suspects in some imaginary crime, etc.

And then it became, well, THAT.
zeonchar 7th-Apr-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
IKR? The same thing happened to me.
pistol_eyes 7th-Apr-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
*blank stare*

mercystars 7th-Apr-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
wow. my grandfather could've written this, sounds just like him tbh. but he's long dead now, and someday, this racist prick will be dead, too.
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