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George W. Bush and 8 members of his Administration are now WANTED WAR CRIMINALS.

4:51 pm - 05/14/2012

KUALA LUMPUR — It’s official -- George W. Bush is a war criminal.

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former president of the United States and seven key members of his administration were found guilty of war crimes on Friday.

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisors, Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee, and John Yoo, were tried in absentia in Malaysia.

The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of U.S. soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They included testimony from British citizen Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi, who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their key legal advisors, who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment.

Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements, and other relevant material will now be sent to the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the UN Security Council.

The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission is also asking that the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee, Addington, and Haynes be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals for public record.

The tribunal is the initiative of retired Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, who staunchly opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

He sat through the entire hearing as it took personal statements and testimonies of three witnesses, namely Abbas Abid, Moazzam Begg, and Jameelah Hameedi. The tribunal also heard two other statutory declarations by Iraqi citizen Ali Shalal and Rahul Ahmed, another British citizen.

After the five senior judges delivered the guilty verdicts, Mahathir said, “Powerful countries are getting away with murder.”

War crimes expert and lawyer Francis Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law in the U.S., was part of the prosecution team.

After the case concluded, he said, “This is the first conviction of these people anywhere in the world.”

While some regard the hearing as purely symbolic, human rights activist Boyle said he was hopeful that Bush and company could soon find themselves facing similar trials elsewhere in the world.

“We tried three times to get Bush in Canada but were thwarted by the Canadian government; then we scared Bush out of going to Switzerland. The Spanish attempt failed because of the government there and the same happened in Germany.”

Boyle then referenced the Nuremberg Charter, which was used as the format for the tribunal, when asked about the credibility of the initiative in Malaysia. He stated, “Leaders, organizers, instigators, and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any person in execution of such a plan.”

The U.S. is subject to customary international law and to the Principles of the Nuremberg Charter said Boyle, who also stated that the week-long trial was “almost certainly” being monitored closely by both Pentagon and White House officials.

Professor Gurdial Singh Nijar, who headed the prosecution, said, “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts.”

He added that he was optimistic that the tribunal would be followed up elsewhere in the world where “countries have a duty to try war criminals” and he cited the case of former Chilean dictator Augustine Pinochet, who was arrested in Britain to be extradited to Spain on charges of war crimes. “Pinochet was only eight years out of his presidency when that happened.”

The Pinochet case was the first time that several European judges applied the principle of universal jurisdiction, declaring themselves competent to judge crimes committed by former heads of state, despite local amnesty laws.

Throughout the week the tribunal was packed with legal experts and law students as witnesses gave testimony and then cross examination was conducted by the defense, led by lawyer Jason Kay Kit Leon.

The court heard how

· Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old engineer from Fallujah in Iraq, had his fingernails removed by pliers.

· Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from a wall.

· Moazzam Begg was beaten, hooded, and put in solitary confinement.

· Jameelah Hameedi was stripped and humiliated, and was used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter.

The witnesses also detailed how they still have residual injuries today.

Moazzam Begg, now working as a director for the London-based human rights group Cageprisoners, said he was delighted with the verdict, but added, “When people talk about Nuremberg, you have to remember those tried were all prosecuted after the war.

“Right now Guantanamo is still open, people are still being held there and are still being tortured there.”

In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama administrations, he stated, “If President Bush was the president of extra-judicial torture, then U.S. President Barack Obama is the president of extra-judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.”

The prosecution case rested on proving how the decision-makers at the highest level, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, aided and abetted by the lawyers and the other commanders and CIA officials -- all acted in concert. Torture was systematically applied and became an accepted norm.

According to the prosecution, the testimony of all the witnesses exposed a sustained perpetration of brutal, barbaric, cruel, and dehumanizing course of conduct against them.

These acts of crimes were applied cumulatively to inflict the worst possible pain and suffering, said lawyers.

The president of the tribunal, Tan Sri Dato Lamin bin Haji Mohd Yunus Lamin, found that the prosecution had established beyond a “reasonable doubt that the accused persons, former President George W. Bush and his co-conspirators engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and action that established a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and/or conspiracy to commit the crimes of torture and war crimes, including and not limited to a common plan and purpose to commit the following crimes in relation to the “War on Terror” and the wars launched by the U.S. and others in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

President Lamin told a packed courtroom, “As a tribunal of conscience, the tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

“The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly.

“The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions”.

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chaya 14th-May-2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
This could use a Malaysia tag.
cherrylng 14th-May-2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
It exists... Under a pile of more tags
mastadge 14th-May-2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
Good. I hope speaking the truth doesn't have any unfortunate political backlash for Malaysia. I wish the United States was the kind of country that could be shamed into change by its international peers, but with its/our American Exceptionalism complex that rarely seems to be the case.
mentalguru 14th-May-2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
Ah the only moral [x] is my/when I do [x] deal, yes.

I also think it's because some people don't get that being a certain nationality might mean you're more likely to get away with things but that doesn't make it -right-. It's also things that can even be applied to those within a country too of course.

Sometimes justice fails to get doled out obviously and the world can be pretty fucked up meaning that those with more power 'shockingly' have the power to get away with more bs than others would. If justice is blind it shifts in favour of the power tremors it feels all the same.

Getting away with it is not some sign from a higher power you were actually right to do it (another thing I remember hearing once). Might does not mean you're morally right etc. etc.
shukivengeance 14th-May-2012 08:29 pm (UTC)
Really hope something comes of this. Bush is a foul, disgusting warmongerer who should be locked up and never see daylight again for the atrocities he perpetrated.
liret 14th-May-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
Are they actually wanted? This seems like the tribunal just issued a recommendation, which might possibly lead to more official action later. It's a powerful statement, but pretty much only that.
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oudeteron 14th-May-2012 10:04 pm (UTC)
^ All of this, unfortunately.
cher_arlequin 14th-May-2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
I wish there was a chance that something would come of this, but I'm certainly glad that it's out there, if nothing else.
pennylane101 14th-May-2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
Team Malaysia tbh
tiddlywinks103 14th-May-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
It makes a statement, if nothing else.
mumbles 14th-May-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
I'm bloody surprised over this because its happening in Malaysia.

Let's see if ICC and UNSC will take any action over this recommendation
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erunamiryene 14th-May-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
I cannot even put a price on how badly I want to see all these fuckers being led out of a courtroom in orange suits and manacles after being convicted of war crimes.

Seriously, it would make my fucking lifetime.

Also, Vincent Bugliosi wrote a really interesting and well-laid-out book about how the state DAs could get together and bring a suit against those very people for murder (one count for each American that died in his fucking misbegotten adventure in Iraq), and I'd love to see THAT happen, too.
ms_maree 14th-May-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
Same. It's up there with my wishlist that one day climate change deniers who are in Gov Policy and leadership and CEOs of large polluting corporations will be put on charges of crimes against humanity for what they led the world into.

It's a dream.
giggles8504 14th-May-2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
They should of been charged with this years ago. He is living it up here in Dallas. I live here and people think he walks on water, makes me sick.
tilmon 14th-May-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
Texan to Texan, I feel your pain. At least I'm not in Dallas. People who aren't part of the human caterpillar attached to his ass must be few.
cherrylng 14th-May-2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
What the - Dr. Mahathir, I see that you still haven't given up on your mission to make this happen.


If people want to see Bush and his legal advisers get tried and judged guilty for their war crimes, it should be in The Hague, NOT in Malaysia. Now that my country spoke out, they need other countries to speak out and agree to it to form a consensus. But even then, my scepticism says that the USA won't listen and bring him out even from demand. In this multi-polared political world, the USA is still powerful by default compared to Malaysia, still called a developing nation for some reason.


I have a feeling that Mahathir had been backing up this trial for a long time and made sure it's going to happen. But make no mistake, two wrongs don't make a right. Mahathir may have helped Malaysia get pushed up into the limelight and fixed our monetary problems without the help of IMF rescue packages back in 1997-1999, but that doesn't exactly say that he won't use brute force and manipulate some parts of his history.

That said, I feel like this is just an announcement for now. Unless nothing else happened, my homeland will be a laughing stock and seen as a fool more than as a brave nation to stand up.

EDIT: In truth, to me and my friend in discussing this, this is just merely a distraction attempt to hide other more important internal problems in Malaysia. 5 minutes of fame over, back to normal life for us.

Edited at 2012-05-14 10:53 pm (UTC)
celtic_thistle 14th-May-2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
The fact that all of these asswipes are walking free is an affront and an insult.
tilmon 14th-May-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
This is great news! I hate what the US has become, how our government acts without jurisdiction anywhere in the world and behaves in any manner it wishes, though it would be immediately declare war if any other country were to violate our borders. I despise how, given our government's role in human rights violations both external and internal, America no longer has moral credibility. Even if this judgment is merely symbolic, what it symbolizes is that people of the world will no longer pretend not to see. Not only do they see, but they are not afraid to speak. Maybe, maybe, it will have a beneficial effect in limiting American overreaching.
tabaqui 14th-May-2012 11:28 pm (UTC)
GOOD. The US has become more and more this grotesque, shadowy threat that spirits people off to camps, jails and hidden prisons, never to be heard from again. Condoning torture, wrecking governments and economies, giving weapons to dictators and propping up war mongers. It seems to just keep getting worse and worse.

I would give pretty much anything to see these fuckheads paraded in chains and stuck away in a dungeon somewhere.
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