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Republicans Bravely Defend Children’s Right to Tell Gay Kids They’re Going to Hell

7:59 pm - 05/23/2012

Republicans Bravely Defend Children’s Right to Tell Gay Kids They’re Going to Hell

The gig's up, homos — Republicans in Illinois are on to your bullshit. They know that all these pinko attempts to strengthen anti-bullying rules are all just part of the gay agenda, an attempt to actually keep the Christian kids down by stripping them of their god-given right to inform all the sissies and limp-wrists of the world that they can take their pink glittery passports and head straight to hell, because they're a dirty abomination in the eyes of the Lord. That's why today the Illinois Senate narrowly rejected a measure that would have required schools to get serious about fighting bullying.

I'm serious. A legislative body actually went to bat in favor of bullies.

What seemed like a slam dunk for the forces of Not Being An Asshole To Each Other was derailed by pressure from conservative and Christian groups in the Land of Lincoln today, as a law that would have compelled schools to spell out specific anti-bullying rules and note in their codes of conduct that bullying was against the law was defeated by a single vote. Opponents of the law claimed that it wasn't actually an anti-bullying law at all, but rather a rule forcing kids to embrace homosexuality. The Illinois Family Institute ("family," again, is code for "rally 'round the heterosexual penis") suggested that schools have an "opt out" provision that would have allowed religious kids to justify acting like little Romneys to other kids by saying that their religion compels it.

Proponents of the law say that an "opt out" provision is ridiculous, as is the notion that the law would have forced all kids to turn gay. The bill suggested no specific curriculum, nor did it dictate that the school inform the children that they were required to embrace all lifestyles in body, mind, and spirit. It was just a set of guidelines designed to protect kids who were getting picked on, for any reason.

If Christians are so concerned with promoting homosexuality, they should stop running around telling everyone how good it feels to have Christ inside them.


makemerun 24th-May-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
Hi there.

I'm feeling patient today, so instead of a sarcastic gif, I'm going to take a second to educate you as to why your comments are not ok. Take this as you will.

So, you've found yourself in a situation where members of a group that you belong to are oppressing a minority. This is not a fun place to be. I get it.

It's even less fun to see a disparaging comment left by someone upset by or possibly even personally hurt by that oppression (IDK if the original commenter is LGBT or not). This may make you feel personally attacked, because even though you're a member of the oppressive group, you belong to a subset of that group that either does not actively oppress or possibly even actively fights for the rights of the oppressed group.

You may worry that the acts of the douches in your group are sullying the good name of the rest of you. As a member of a religious group, you may worry that this could go so far as to threaten the safety of the souls of the oppressed, simply because they have (from your perspective) a false view of your god, perpetuated by the crappy members.

So this may lead you to shut down someone's rightful anger toward your group in order to correct the record. This usually ends in a "Not all X people are like that!" sort of comment.

But see, the problem with this is

1) They are rightfully angry at your group.

2) They are already aware there are members of your group who don't hold oppressive views. Restating this to them comes off as chiding and implies that they are too ignorant to understand your group is not a monolith.

3) It turns the tables on who is being victimized-- it makes it seem like you believe the reputation of your group is more important than the very real pain that the oppressed group is experiencing; that the oppressed shouldn't voice their anger, because it's unfair to the "good ones" in the oppressive group. This is, of course, just more oppressive behavior. It is worse to be oppressed than it is to belong to a group that oppresses others.

4) They are all "real" members of your group.

I don't like that racists can be feminists. It makes me mad. But I can't say they're not real feminists, just because I define feminism to include anti-racist behavior. They identify as feminists, they are viewed as feminists, and they support feminist causes, despite being asshats. So when a POC says they could never identify as feminist because of racism, that's a valid concern. If I said "real" feminists aren't racist, I'd be whitewashing (for lack of a better term) the reality of racial oppression and white privilege within the feminist community.

5) The volume of these comments amplifies yours. Every time a group oppresses a minority, there is a flood of comments from the oppressing group making sure everyone understands that not all (X's) are like that (see #2). So one little comment can provoke pretty strong reactions, because of that history.

6) Stating you and your brand of x group isn't oppressive comes across as fishing for cookies. Good for you! You meet the lowest standards for basic human decency! No one cares. This isn't about you.

7) Even if you belong to the group being oppressed by douchey members of your other group, in this case, if you're LGBT, it still doesn't excuse comments like this. As mentioned above, you're still implying that the original commenter is somehow too ignorant to understand your group has more than one view, and it comes across as implying that some non-douchey members' actions excuse the douchey members' actions. Regardless of who you are, your actions can be hurtful.

8) Remember that intent doesn't negate consequences. I have no doubt that your intentions were good, which is why I took the time to write this out-- so that you don't make the same mistake in the future, and understand why people may find this comment upsetting.
yelena_r0ssini 24th-May-2012 09:09 pm (UTC)
This is exquisite. Just thought you should know how much it's appreciated by a bystander.
koken23 24th-May-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry.

My statement wasn't intended that way (no cookies wanted) and I didn't think it through as I should have done. You're absolutely right, and I ask your forgiveness for my moment of stupidity.
makemerun 24th-May-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
No problem. Thank you for the apology. <3
kaowolfie 25th-May-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
Soooo, have you thought about keeping this in a txt file somewhere to bust out as necessary? Or... maybe make it a post so the rest of us can link to it as it's needed? Because you wrote this wonderfully.
darsynia 5th-Jun-2012 04:10 pm (UTC)
seconded like woah
strandedinaber 25th-May-2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
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