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2:38 pm - 06/01/2012
National Review Writer: Conservatives Should ‘Beat’ Young People Who ‘Think Socialism Is Better Than Capitalism’

The National Review’s Jonah Goldberg is claiming that 18-year-olds should be denied the right to vote because they are “so frickin’ stupid about so many things.” In a video first posted by the Daily Caller, Goldberg laments the culture’s obsession with youth and argues that conservatives should “beat out” young people’s belief that “socialism is better than capitalism.” Goldberg is the third National Review writer in two months to face controversy:

GOLDBERG: Personally, I think the voting age should be much, higher, not lower. I think it was a mistake to lower it to 18, to be brutally honest….[I]t is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than youth. We’re all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young. And yet there’s this thing in this culture where, ‘Oh, young people are for it so it must be special.’ No, the reason young people are for it because they don’t know better. That’s why we call them young people.

The fact that young people think socialism is better than capitalism. That’s proof of what social scientists call their stupidity and their ignorance. And that’s something that conservatives have to beat out of them. Either literally or figuratively as far as I’m concerned.

The magazine fired popular conservative columnist John Derbyshire in April after he topped off a long history of racism and sexism by advising children to avoid “concentrations of black.” It later ended its relationship with Robert Weissberg, who had ties to the white nationalist group American Renaissance.

Video of the douchebaggery at the link.
source: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/06/01/493804/national-review-writer-conservatives-should-beat-young-people-who-think-socialism-is-better-than-capitalism/
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ladypolitik 1st-Jun-2012 07:36 pm (UTC)
LOL, Jonah Goldberg.






Yeah, that's where I stopped reading.
phamos818 1st-Jun-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
A+ comment, A+ icon.
ladypolitik Okay, this caught my eye:1st-Jun-2012 07:41 pm (UTC)
"[I]t is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than youth."


Citation, muthafucker, because what science is THIS?

Seriously, "It's just a fact" is not some matter of speech. You have to qualify that statement by PROVING shit, not by having a lot of strong ~feelings~ about a dubious POV.

As for the statement itself, logic would dictate that Goldberg is therefore no more than like, what-- 5 years old? Which is a travesty, considering the world is filled with thousands of bright 5 year olds, and certainly dont mean to insult them by affiliating them with Goldberg.

Edited at 2012-06-01 07:43 pm (UTC)
redstar826 Re: Okay, this caught my eye:1st-Jun-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
if my extensive learnings and research (by which I mean my time spent substitute teaching)have taught me anything it is that the only reason kindergartners don't rule the world is that they are too short to reach stuff without assistance. Seriously, some of these kids I see are so clever I can barely stand it
toraguru 1st-Jun-2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
He, apparently, didn't get over his childhood idiocy.
executivehpfan 1st-Jun-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
Oh, I see. Okay then.


Fuckwit.
layweed 1st-Jun-2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than youth

Pretty sure you just created one helluva paradox there because you clearly are ignorant and stupid and 43 years old.
redstar826 1st-Jun-2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
oddly enough, I was a conservative when I was 18. I didn't discover socialism until I was a little bit older.
darth_eldritch 1st-Jun-2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
Same here
mercystars 1st-Jun-2012 07:47 pm (UTC)
wull ahhhhm proud ta be an Ammurrikaaaan
where at leest ah know ahhm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
layweed 1st-Jun-2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
Worst. Song. Ever.
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thistlerose 1st-Jun-2012 07:47 pm (UTC)
I think it was a mistake to lower it to 18, to be brutally honest

So he doesn't think that people who are old enough to die for their country should be allowed to vote for their representatives. Gotcha. Go away, Jonah. Please.
beoweasel 1st-Jun-2012 07:59 pm (UTC)
What makes you think he gives a shit about soldiers other than serving as fodder to further American interests?
crossfire 1st-Jun-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
brb standing on Goldberg's lawn
hinoema 1st-Jun-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
I'd do more than that on his lawn. (It looks dry, anyway.)
riath 1st-Jun-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
The fact that young people think socialism is better than capitalism. That’s proof of what social scientists call their stupidity and their ignorance.

Citation fucking needed asshole. Which social scientists say that? One of my uni modules is social sciences and I haven't seen anything of the sort.

curseangel 1st-Jun-2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
As a social scientist, that line made me want to beat my head against the wall. It's such bullshit.

I mean, even forgetting the idiocy required to think social scientists would brand all young people as "stupid," social scientists are also roughly as divided as anybody else as to whether capitalism or socialism is better.
sankaku_atama 1st-Jun-2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
We’re all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young.

And Mr. Goldberg is proving that some of us never get over that condition.
tala_nahimana 1st-Jun-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)


That about sum it up? LoL
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tala_nahimana 1st-Jun-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
This!!
darth_eldritch 1st-Jun-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
While we're at it, let's return voting to only while male landowners! /sarcasm
magli 1st-Jun-2012 09:10 pm (UTC)
That's why they're called "male landowners"!
astridmyrna 1st-Jun-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
Age =/= maturity, as shown in this article.
tala_nahimana 1st-Jun-2012 08:37 pm (UTC)
Pffffffffffft!!!! That's rich. People like this want to lump on young people for being "stupid" just because they're young? Makes me want to ask them "Well, then what's your excuse?"
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