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Green Lantern is gay! No, not that one....and not that one either.

8:31 pm - 06/01/2012
DC Comics’ New Gay Character Is Green Lantern Alan Scott



DC Comics has been teasing the reveal of a major gay character for some time, and they’ve finally revealed who it will be: Alan Scott, known as Green Lantern, a media mogul, will be revealed to be gay in a story that resets his character. When this news came out, I said it would be best if the supposedly-iconic character DC was going to have come out was someone for whom the revelation that he or she was gay helped tie together things we’d always known about the character and their personality, much as J.K. Rowling did with Albus Dumbledore. I’m not sure if a pure reset of an existing character quite does that. And over at Topless Robot, Rob Bricken explains that the move isn’t as bold as DC insisted it would be, in part because Scott is not even the most prominent Green Lantern in comics today, and in part because his arc as a gay man will be taking place in an alternate DC Comics universe, rather than altering our sense of the core universe, where a straight Alan Scott presumably is still going about his business.

DC Comics was never going to turn one of their genuinely iconic characters gay. An out and proud Batman would have been a great joke on moralists like Frederic Wertham, the psychiatrist who saw sexual perversion everywhere he looked in comic books. A gay Superman would have been a fascinating exploration of what it means to feel like an alien in human society. But it’s hard to imagine that DC would have done something so bold simply to demonstrate its commitment to diversity, or to compete in a market where Marvel Comics, and even Archie Comics, are directly selling themselves both to gay readers and to straight readers who live among and love the gay people in their lives.

Checking the box and including a gay character in your universe, whether you frame them as a stereotype or develop them well or not, isn’t really enough to earn a company points anymore. And I actually think the somewhat disappointed reaction to this revelation is a good thing because it suggests that our expectations are getting more ambitious. If companies want credit for doing something different and genuinely brave, rather than simply meeting their basic obligations to represent the world around them, they need to tell stories or highlight kinds of characters that no one else has the courage to represent. The L.A. Complex gets points for portraying gay characters who aren’t white and male, the standard television default. Happy Endings gets credit for showing us a gay man who’s chubby, romantic, semi-downwardly mobile. Maybe DC Comics will do something genuinely exciting with Alan Scott, but it’s fine not to shower the company with gratitude for simply nodding towards a diversity quota, and doing so with the same kind of gay person who’s been acceptable in pop culture for years: rich and white.

Getting rather tired of all the dudebro comments saying it should have Wonder Woman or Power Girl...

source: http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/06/01/493748/dc-comics-new-gay-character-is-green-lantern-alan-scott/
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jazzypom Alan Scott?2nd-Jun-2012 07:51 am (UTC)
When I think 'Green Lantern'- he's not the guy I think about- Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, yes. Alan Scott- who? It took a minute for me to remember who he was (to be fair, I'm a casual DC fan, but still, enough of a fan to know the major characters outside of their trinity).

Wait, they have him in the 'Elseworlds' universe? Wow.

On one hand, good on DC for 'evolving' and embracing diversity. On the other hand, smh at them for going with a relatively minor character in (literally) another universe.

I hear their Batwoman comic is good, so... they win at that.

Edited at 2012-06-02 07:52 am (UTC)
qable 2nd-Jun-2012 07:55 am (UTC)
He's in the DCnU's Earth 2, which is apparently just as grim as DCnU proper.
qable 2nd-Jun-2012 07:53 am (UTC)
I'm left wondering how long before one of Scott's love interests gets fridged in the name of angst. I give it a maximum of three issues.

A relatively obscure character who happens to be gay just puts queer characters on the sidelines, which is where they've been all along.
lickbrains 2nd-Jun-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly.
brittlesmile 2nd-Jun-2012 08:07 am (UTC)
Not surprised. As for my feelings on this, I'm kind of conflicted. On the one hand, I'm a little disappointed with they way they built this up - I don't understand why DC built up the publicity for this. I mean I guess they're counting on most people who don't read comics to hear that "Green Lantern" came out and think it's a big deal but......... I feel like if you're going to say you're outing a 'major character' it should at least be someone on the JL? Or in your main universe? On the other, it's kind of cool to have a first generation (rather than legacy) hero out. But it also seems like this will be really easy for them to undo if it doesn't go well. *sigh*
evilgmbethy 2nd-Jun-2012 09:55 am (UTC)
I mean I guess they're counting on most people who don't read comics to hear that "Green Lantern" came out and think it's a big deal

yeah, I think that's exactly what they're going for. I've never read a single comic in my life and I'm very lukewarm on superhero movies, even, so to my untrained ears, it sounded impressive when I heard that they'd made the Green Lantern gay. Then I read this article and I'm like, ".... third version AU Green Lantern is gay? -_-"

Also lol at the fact that comics are apparently as ridiculously confusing as my RPG threads with my friends when we decide LET'S MAKE AN AU TO PLAY WITH FOR FUN.
terribilita 2nd-Jun-2012 08:16 am (UTC)
A gay Superman would have been a fascinating exploration of what it means to feel like an alien in human society.

God, just imagine that.
squeeful 2nd-Jun-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
IA. I made squeaky noises reading that sentence.
freezer 2nd-Jun-2012 08:26 am (UTC)
This reminds me (not favorably) of the pub Marvel got when they announced they were going to kill off Spider-Man and replace him with a Hispanic teen, while not exactly empathizing that it was the Ultimate Marvel version that was killed, not the "real" version.

Really, if they were going to go the "straight gay" route and have being homosexual just another part of Scott's character, why all the hoopla?
keeni84 2nd-Jun-2012 01:07 pm (UTC)
Miles Morales, Afro-Latino, modeled after Donald Glover.

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tala_nahimana 2nd-Jun-2012 08:32 am (UTC)
Well, I can't really say much seeing as how I haven't really read many comic books (the occasional X-Men comic not withstanding).  I mean, I am glad that DC is starting to warm up to showing diversity and perhaps I can't blame them for making it a tentative one.  But still. I think I was more impressed with the picture I saw of a gay X-Men wedding I saw last week.  That made me very happy  ^_^
sparkindarkness 2nd-Jun-2012 10:43 am (UTC)
The guy who has a weakness to wood Uh-huh.

The reboot also seems to have disappeared the original Alan Scott's gay son, Obsidian.


It seems a shame that they're going to introduce a "major" gay character and they do that by picking a much more obscure Green lantern than the one most people know
and then shoving him in an alternate world. it's like "here's some MAJOR INCLUSION" buuut not really
baked_goldfish 2nd-Jun-2012 12:55 pm (UTC)
The reboot also seems to have disappeared the original Alan Scott's gay son, Obsidian.

This was what I was wondering about, and it seems really sketch.
maladaptive 2nd-Jun-2012 11:28 am (UTC)
That was my thought. I'm pretty knowledgeable about DC's characters and I was like... who?
mysid 2nd-Jun-2012 11:08 am (UTC)
What the hell is he wearing? He looks like he dressed as a vampire for Halloween, and not very well. I guess we could be glad he isn't following the "gay men have good fashion sense" stereotype.
baked_goldfish 2nd-Jun-2012 12:21 pm (UTC)
What the hell is he wearing?

The first Green Lantern costume.
milleniumrex 2nd-Jun-2012 01:15 pm (UTC)
On one hand, yeah, he's not the most prominent GL, but at least he's the only GL starring in this comic and is likely the leader of their premiere super-team, so that's something.
reservoir 2nd-Jun-2012 01:21 pm (UTC)
This was done solely because of Marvel's gay wedding. They picked this dude out of a hat.
jazzypom Heh, it seems like it2nd-Jun-2012 03:43 pm (UTC)
If they were going to do a Green Lantern, why not Guy Gardner or Jon Stewart- if not Hal Jordan?

Alan Scott - you have to be deep into your DC cups to know who he is. I only know who he happens to be because my library has some old graphic novels lying about.
yeats 2nd-Jun-2012 01:25 pm (UTC)

far superior imho.
beoweasel 2nd-Jun-2012 03:43 pm (UTC)
far superior more psychotic imho.

Fixed. ;p
temperance_k 2nd-Jun-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
I kind of wish, if the companies are ~worried about going all the way~ and claiming a character to be gay, that they'd just make a major character bisexual. That way, they don't have to retcon all of the main character's previous romantic relations (which would be an issue for most major characters) while still maybe giving the main character a good same-sex partner? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

Because it's all well and good to have a gay character, but not if said gay character never gets a long term, stable partner. Though I realize Marvel is doing somewhat better in this category.
jazzypom Marvel has two bisexual characters though2nd-Jun-2012 03:46 pm (UTC)
Dakken (Logan Hewitt's kid) and Bobbi Morse.

Dakken and Bobbi aren't with partners right now because of ~reasons~.
randomtasks 2nd-Jun-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
I had to take a minute to remember who Alan Scott is.
I mean the first Green Lanterns that come to mind is Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart.
I'm more of a Marvel fan anyways.
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